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Guide to Vintage Star Wars collecting

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Collecting' started by Fiddlestyx, Nov 25, 2014.

  1. Fiddlestyx

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    Not so long ago at a Kenner office not so far away... Star Wars toys were born.

    Hello, I'm Fiddlestyx and welcome to my Guide to Vintage Star Wars collecting. This guide is meant to serve as a basic introduction to Star Wars vintage collecting. It includes links and information to help you along your journey to a galaxy far, far away.
    Kenner's Star Wars toy line ran from 1977 to 1985.


    Where should I start if I want to collect star wars toys?

    The following four websites contain a wealth of information on the subject and are a great place to start learning.

    The original Kenner 1977-1985 photo archive of Kenner Star Wars toys

    Guide to identifying authentic figures, weapons and accessories

    Introduction to COOs (Country of Origin)

    The Star Wars Collectors Archive


    Star Wars collecting Terminology:

    When collecting Star Wars you will inevitably come across some abbreviations or terms that you may not recognize. Below is a list of common ones you should learn. Some are easy to figure out and others not so much.

    Vintage - In the Star Wars collecting world, Vintage refers to items produced between 1977-85 and does not include stuff from the 1990s

    ANH - A New Hope

    ESB - Empire Strikes Back

    ROTJ - Return of the Jedi

    POTF - Power of the Force

    MOC - Mint on Card

    MISB - Mint in Sealed Box

    MIB - Mint in Box

    NOS - New Old Stock

    POP - Proof of Purchase

    DT - Double Telescoping, this refers to the two piece light sabers for the action figures of Darth Vader, Obi Wan Kenobi and Luke Skywalker (These figures can go for a premium, thousands of dollars)

    COO - Country of Origin, where the toy was made. Acceptable COOs:

    Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau, China, No COO

    Wait, isn't Hong Kong in China? Yes, but it was under British control until the late 1990s.

    Mexico can also be a COO, but this should only be seen on some toys. For example: card-backs, vehicles, preschool figures... It will not be on any of the 3 3/4 figures.

    Card Back - This is the card that the figure was attached to.

    Tri-Logo - Tri-Logo cards have logos in English, French and Spanish.

    Early Bird - This was the first Kenner Star Wars action figure item. You can read all about it here.

    First 12 - This refers to the first 12 characters produced.

    Last 17 - This refers to the last 17 characters produced. The last 17 was the end of the line for Vintage Star Wars action figures and as such not as many of them were produced. This makes them a little more valuable than some of the other figures.

    -Back - You may come across a term such as 12-Back or 20-Back. This is a way of identifying the card by referring to how many figures are displayed on the back of the card. When the figures first came out, there were only 12 different figures available for purchase. As they produced different figures, more became available and the backs were changed to reflect that. 12, 20, 21, 31, 32, 41, 45, 47, 48, 65, 77, 79, 92 and 93 are all the different backs you may find. You may also find suffixes with the number such as 12backC. The letter denotes a change in the card. This can be as simple as a sticker being added at the factory or a description being slightly changed. Suffixes go from A to H and Tri-Logo cards have a different suffix. This can all get confusing for someone just starting out, but this website can help.


    Trademarks (Copyright, ©):

    One of the following trademarks should be found on all vintage Star Wars toys in some form.

    LFL - LucasFilm Limited

    GMFGI - General Mills Fun Group Incorporated (General Mills was the owner of Kenner)

    CPG - Consumer Product Group (only used on Boba Fett action figure)


    Grading:

    Who does it and what is it? Grading is done to give a toy a widely accepted grade that denotes what kind of condition a toy is in.

    AFA - Action Figure Authority, a US company which grades toys.

    UKG - UK Graders, a company based in the UK which grades toys. UKG is said to use a stricter grading process. So an AFA 90 may be a UKG 85, even though both figures appear identical.

    Wait Fiddle, what do these numbers mean? Well, all toys are graded on scale, this scale looks at different aspects of a toy (like condition and paint) and assigns a number to it. Grading scales differ between modern and vintage toys and between graders. For more information check out Grading Scales

    UGrade- Ah, the good old controversial UGrade. UGraded toys receive a number such as U90. UGrades are given to toys that, when graded, are removed from their original packaging, the U stands for Uncirculated. This is seen as destructive by many collectors.


    Who made or distributed the Vintage Star Wars toys?

    Kenner - A toy company based in Cincinnati, Ohio

    Kenner Canada - Kenner's distributor for Canada

    Glasslite - A toy company that manufactured Star Wars toys for the Brazilian Market

    Lily Ledy - A toy company in Mexico that produced and distributed Star Wars toys.

    Meccano - The French licensee for Kenner toys

    Palitoy - a British toy company

    PBP - a toy company that was created from the merger of three Spanish toy companies, Poch, Borras and Palouzie

    Clipper - a company that distributed Star Wars Kenner toys in Belgium, Holland and Luxembourg

    Harbert - a distributor in Italy

    Takara - a toy company in Japan


    How can I find out what a fair price is for a toy I would like to buy or sell?

    Well there are several ways to do this.

    eBay sold listings - You can do an eBay search and show only SOLD listing. This is a great way to see what a particular item is selling for. You can then use that information and arrive at an average price.

    Ask on forums - There are many places Star Wars toys are bought and sold. Asking at one of these places allows you to pick the minds of other collectors and see what they think it is worth.

    Price guides - Price guides are out there, but keep in mind prices are always fluctuating and a price guide can be obsolete really fast.


    What is the best piece of advice you can give me?

    Be patient! Take your time and do some research before you buy. There are plenty of people out there trying to scam you, but with patience and research you can do a lot to avoid that.


    So, there it is. You should now have a strong foundation to build upon in your journey to a galaxy far, far away. There is a lot more out there to learn, but you should have a good start now.
    Happy collecting and May the Force be with you... Always

    If you have any question, suggestions or find an error, please contact me.

    Fiddle


    Sources *

    The Imperial Gunnery -

    Rebelscum.com: Home Page

    Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki

    Trilogo.info

    Kenner History

    The Star Wars Collectors Archive
     
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    I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner! This is great!

    I collect everything Han Solo but now I've started re-collecting vintage Kenner Han stuff. Last year I scored a 12" Han Solo complete with box. The box was in meh shape (I know not an official grade :p) but I'm glad to have it finally.

    Well done @Fiddlestyx your thread just earned a sticky!!!
     
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    image.jpg

    Mine :)

    Is this Boba Fett any good / rare?
     
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    looks cool. is it a re release or an original? i dont know to much about collectibles but there is a thread that covers that somewhere around here.
     
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    Just ordered
    Star Wars Super Collector s Wishbook 5th Edition Hardcover – Illustrated, November 18, 2009 since it was on sale, bieng the book is 8 years old how much percentage would be added on to the items listed or what would be recommended over the list price in the book
     
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    Hey guys, I am a newbie at this. I am looking for some cheap websites and I find this guide amazing. But I am not sure about e-bay, they have a lot of variation in prices... I am looking forward to a good store. What do you think of this one ? https://mystorewars.com/
     
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    Looks good mustve just opened this year
     
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    Hum, that's what they told me at another forum, I was looking for a Darth Vader like this one !
    Do you know any other website that might have that ?
     
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    Did a search on ebay that is unusual
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    Found one here
    https://imall.com/product/?en&store=aliexpress.com&sku=32769706467&skuip=3320918
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    or here
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Sta...arth-Vader-PVC-Action-Figure/32769706467.html
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    one other
    https://superherotshirtsshop.com/pr...ctible-model-toy-17cm-kt3254.32770681988.html
     
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    Oh thank you so much ! The thing on ebay is that those guys might not be legit... The thing on my store wars is just that a friend of mine bought there and said they were nice... Well, I will try to buy there and post here when it arrives :)

    Thank you so much JimmySolo !!
     
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    I've purchased from Aliexpress
    some of these items are from overseas and take some time to arrive so check it out good read some reviews from the ones that purchased
     
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    Hi folks, first time noob here. Looking for some themed drinkware (hosting a SW themed party next month). Did some search on the net, but like to hear any recommendations?
     
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    Looking for higher priced drinkware? Have seen some lower priced at Target and Dollar Tree on occasion like plastic ware and the higher end at target Coffee mugs and shot glasses. Maybe more of a selection online like Birthday in a Box https://www.birthdayinabox.com/page...80sG7Us1_JT9g3D8S3NF4AKL7UU-ZjLhoCGH8QAvD_BwE or Party City https://www.partycity.com/search?q=star+wars&lang=en_US and Wholesale Party Supplies https://www.wholesalepartysupplies.com/search?utf8=✓&q=star+wars&button=search
     
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    Wow, cool, thanks for that JimmySolo. LOL. Maybe I didn't specify what kind of party I was going to have. Yes, higher priced and more refined, if you know what I mean. At the moment I have the Darth Vader Mug, very similar to this. https://www.gograbbo.com/product/darth-vader-glass/ and this https://inspiringwave.com/products/star-wars-darth-vader-glass

    I saw a stormtrooper drinking glass also floating somewhere in the internet as well. I have a buddy who has that.

    I am looking specifically for glassware, if anyone else has any ideas.
     
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    so.... I'm selling my massive 70's-2014 collection. My uncles owned several Amaco service stations in the 70's and put aside several tubes of the Star Wars promotion posters for me.
    E-bay prices state these have almost no value. Once I get pics, I'll post them.

    Is it better to go with one large collection via auction house? The set includes all the original figures w weapons, a vinyl cape jawa, all POTF figures w weapons, all 70's die cast vehicles, the SW & ESB micro collection w figures (sans the falcon playlet).... a 1982 Bossk MIP, trilanguage, unpunched.. all the playsets, the 12" figure collection complete w weapons...
     
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    This thread is amazing. I've just begun collecting the original vintage Kenner figures (trying to stay somewhat casual about it), so this info all in one place is super helpful!

    So far I have: Greedo, Wicket (with spear), C3PO, and two tauntauns (with saddles and reigns) with Hoth Luke and Hoth Han Solo as riders.
     
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    Hello there,
    This forum is so great !
    I have those 2 figures in perfect state. The date is 1977, which I guess is the earliest we could find... any idea of their value?
     

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    Has anybody seen this poster before and can tell me anything about it?
     

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