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Han Solo and Leia...What REALLY happen between them???

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Light Savior, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. Light Savior

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    If you already see the SWTFA movie you know that Kylo Ren is Princess Leia and Han Solo son.Kylo Ren is Ben Solo and in this movie Han Solo try to bring back Ben home to Leia.When Kylo kill his father(and believe me that scene WAS very hard to watch)Princess Leia(she is a General in this movie)felt(with the FORCE) that SOMETHING BAD happen to Han Solo.She "felt" it and she was hit inside.I DID NOT see Leia crying for Han Solo death.I was thinking.... What REALLY happen between Han Solo and Leia that they ARE NOT together???I notice that between Leia and Han the LOVE thing and MAGIC is not the same or gone.I ONLY notice that Leia get sad with Han Solo death BUT nothing else.Rey cry for Han Solo and she only know him in this movie a "few" hours.I believe in this movie that they look divorced to me or not together for "something".If you have a theory and "know" what REALLY happen between Han and Leia this thread is for you...:).

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    they've been estranged since things went bad with Ben. so it's probably been as many as ten years since they have been together. i don't believe it's ever stated that they were married, so what their arrangement was before, who knows? from the novelization/script we know they haven't seen Ben since before he became a man (whatever age that might be in the Star Wars universe).

    i'd like to believe they had some happy years in there, despite their problems. they admit to each other that some of it was "pretty good" despite the bad.

    as to why she doesn't cry: she's Leia. she's always been tough (ice princess and all that). she was clearly crushed, though. even if she didn't shed any tears.
     
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    Good Post FN-3263827...;).I voted WISE 4U my friend.
     
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    thanks!

    thinking about the mess of their family, the way it fell apart, and where it stands now really breaks my heart. what a great and terrible wound.
     
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    It's like how a couple loses their only kid...
     
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    Man....You are right.That is REALLY hard in REAL life and in a movie to watch.See a kid going to a BAD road is HARD...:(.
     
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    Well we didn't actually SEE it happen but only the aftermath but if you know anyone whose ever lost a kid it's ridiculous (in a bad way) .
     
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    The script (and novelization) says that husband and wife are reunited when they meet.

    The TFA Visual Dictionary and Incredible Cross Sections book say that they were married. A galley (kitchen) was installed in the Millennium Falcon as a gift from Han to Leia.

    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet....rey-discussion-thread.61/page-289#post-233134
     
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    "Years" could mean any number of it .
     
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    Initeresting...most interesting.
     
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    I hope perhaps in the next 2 films and the novelizations we'll get some more backstory on their relationship and how they drifted apart - perhaps a heart to heart with her brother Luke? We can hope. I feel like some key scenes were edited that had more exposition in TFA. Casual movie goers wouldn't notice, but we diehards want the freaking details.
     
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    They will. According to Del Rey, in the oncoming book "Bloodlines" there are several scenes with Han and Leia.

    So this is the thing: they got married, Ben was born almost during the following year after the Battle of Endor. He was sent to train with Luke, the Jedi Academy massacre happened (but we don't know yet how long before TFA) and they separated but stayed married.

    And well... about Leia and her stoic nature, that is true. In the Princess Leia comics the X-wings pilots call her "The Ice Princess" due to the little grief she shows after the Throne Room ceremony when she remembers the lives lost on Alderaan, including her adoptive parents. Afterwards General Dodonna suggests her to take time to grieve instead taking on another mission - also because the big bounty on her by the Empire - and she refuses and goes and rescue the few Alderaan survivors across the galaxy.
     
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    i kinda hope they don't go into too much detail. it leaves us room to fill that void with whatever satisfies us. i don't want to remember them as miserable, fighting, or being bad parents. i'm more interested in how they reconcile than what brought them to this point.
     
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    That is hilarious! (pwned)
     
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    Most casual moviegoers see it to see it like how they saw "Daddy's Home."
     
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    Such a nerf-herder lol. A loving one anyway :D
     
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    They were estranged in TFA, but I still saw them as very much married, just living separate lives to deal with their pain their own way. They never divorced and the novelization says they're husband and wife. Maz told Han "go home" like it was still a viable option. You wouldn't say that to someone who was essentially divorced. I also think if the marriage had been truly over, Leia (a pretty proud and independent person) would have filed for divorce.

    How long they have been separated for is still not known, but it doesn't sound like it was for that long. Pablo Hidalgo (the continuity guy at LFL) said the Jedi Massacre happened "not that long ago" and that there were "decades of peace" in the galaxy after ROTJ, so it at least happened in the last ten years. Someone asked him about the line where Han says he sees Ben for the first time as a man when he takes his mask off and Pablo replied that that just meant Han didn't see any of the boy he raised still in him. Jen Heddle from LFL says there are some romantic Han/Leia scenes "in happier times" in Bloodlines, which takes place 6 years before TFA, so if the scenes are not flashbacks, they are still together 6 years before TFA and had about 24 years of happiness together as a family before it all went wrong.

    While it made me sad to see what happened to them in TFA, I think it was very, very clear from their scenes together that they love each other deeply and always have. The Visual Dictionary says this too. I do think if Han had returned (with or without Ben) that they were on the road to reconciliation. The novelization makes this more clear with Han telling Leia "There's something I've wanted to say to you for a long time" and thinking right before he goes on the bridge that if he leaves, he has a chance to reunite with Leia back on the Resistance Base. It makes his death all the more tragic. As for Leia not breaking down, Leia has always remained strong in the face of tragedy. She didn't cry when her home planet was exploded in front of her either.
     
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    They were never going to be permanant long-term partners. Leia wanted an exciting scoundrel in her sheltered life for the thrills and Han Solo although brave, was reckless and unreliable. The beginning may have been good, but I think they would have become bored of each other after a while. Note that Han Solo went back to being a freighter pilot/smuggler and not a New Republic starship captain. ;)
     
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