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Han Solo Spinoff

Discussion in 'Solo' started by BailEarnhardtJr, Jul 7, 2015.

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    Han is certainly a main character, but it's Luke's story. Han is clearly supporting in A New Hope, and Return of the Jedi. His role is more significant in Empire, but even then he ultimately serves as bait for Luke. Honestly, the character's importance is lifted by Ford's performance.
     
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    Laszlo, thank you for a kind answer and right in the beginning, most of what I wrote was not about you. I was just continuing with My thoughts after the "ruin" thing. Mostly I agree with you. I don' t like insult in conversations. There will always be someone who have a different oppinion, but it can be expressed in a more civilised way. I can tell. When I was writing thousands arguments why Prometheus or Desolation of Smaug are terrible movies, most of the posters were very offensive while I was always educated. With my post here I was reacting to others conversation, where one was yes and the other was no ant both were on the edge with their expression. Then came the mod and admonished just one side of the conflict and that felt unfair to me. Off topic - do you speak Hungaria?
     
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    Nothing of the sort my good man! I think I have a hunch about how you're feeling about this film. At the risk of fanning flames further, I'll reiterate that I'm not "pro" or "against" anything, but I do accept the fact that it is happening. There is quite a bit of difference. Did I ask them to make a solo-Solo film (man, I can't help but get a kick out of writing "solo-Solo")? I didn't. Do I like that we get a chance to see more of a character that I've always enjoyed? You betchya!

    I won't argue the "necessity" of any film, because, hey, what film is really "necessary?" My own inclination has always been to learn as much as I can about the things I like (to my own detriment sometimes--I've got a to-do list a mile-high thanks to my distracting obsessions). But that's just me! I don't ask anyone else to share that outlook. I understand that you may be upset at the prospect of this film, and you may be frustrated that we don't seem to get what you're saying and feel attacked. So I apologize if you felt I was trying to bait you in some way. All I was trying to do was engage in a little speculation (which I've always found to be the most fun part about these threads), and move us back onto a more positive, productive path.

    We are, for better or worse, the sum of our biology and experience. That likely holds true in a galaxy far, far away just as it does here. We're talking about fiction, and I know you said you weren't the author, but none of are (unless Kasdan is lurking here anonymously). That doesn't mean we can't have a little fun by trying to bounce some ideas around. Trying to suss out a character's experiences shaped who they are, their motivations and what they do is a time-honored tradition in fandom of every kind. You may not see the point, so any attempts on my part were only intended to help all of us understand better your feelings about the character. If you think that Han was always the way he was, why? Do you think he was drawn to his line of work because his personality lent itself to it? Or did he fall into it by accident, and adapted?

    That's not a backdoor attempt to get you on board with a film we can all clearly see you disagree with completely. I honestly just want to know more of your thoughts about the character. That's why I come to the Cantina! To find out what other fans are thinking and to have a little fun speculating. We all have theories, and maybe if you shared a few of yours, we may come around to your way of thinking. You never know!
     
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    Like I said, we see it from different perspective.
     
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    No, but I had a Hungarian uncle by marriage who made fantastic Goulash.

    Cheers mate, see you around the Cantina ;)
     
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    Thanks for the questions and here are my answers, some of it I already wrote here.
    I didn't see Lego movie so I' m not judging the capability of the directors
    Kasdan is great, or was, at this time I don' t know - see Ridley Scott from Robin Hood till today.
    I have fears that the movie will be Needless. That the actor will be a parody of Ford.
    Recasting the main wizard in Harry Potter was good, but I can' t be really objective here, to me it's just another movie. I had no problem with Xmen and I loved Ewan Kenobi. But those characters were too distant in terms of age so it can' t be compared with the Han situation - succesfully replace a kid for a teenager or old man by young man is a much bigger probability than when you try to recast 30 y.o. guy by his 20 y.o. version. Seems that noone here can see the really big difference.
    Being the one who don' t like the idea I will answer with the Hobbit model. After Smaug and having read what they did with Five armies I didn' go to see the third movie and pretend that Hobbit trilogy doesn' exist. Same with Pirates of Caribbean 2-4. Saw but ignore. But this is Star Wars, it is a must see no matter what and highly probably ignore it afterwards. Please don' t be offend by my approach, I stated before that I wish, I even envy to those who will enjoy it. I' m just totally uninterested in a movie based on young Han Solo. If it' s needed for the main story as the ObiWan character was, with similar time distance between the older and younger one, I woudn' t mind. But this story is not needed, the character came through a development and I didn' t need to see Han or any of the original characters again. I hoped the new trilogy will be placed in the future when non of original character would be alive. I always wanted to see new stories, new characters and different times. But that's the harder way. The concept of spin offs is clear. Or at least to me - fast, cheaper, safe. I' m repeating here myself but it' s happening a little bit suspiciously fast.
    We are two groups - those who are dissapointed by the young Han idea and those who welcome it. I think we all said almost every argument to support both sides and there' s little more we can add. And no side will convince the other with its truth. It' s like with religion. You will never convince a believer that there is no god. But we can respect others oppinion. We are all fanboys after all..
     
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    I see it more like politics. There are a minority of strong believers on both sides who make impassioned arguments. But most people will likely fall in the middle, either leaning towards like or dislike of the idea, but ready to be swayed to the other side provided there is convincing argument to do so. We are the swing voters that will determine whether the movie is successful or not on a broad scale.

    Or as per your analogy, I am of the "don't want it" religion in that I think its a mistake to make a Solo movie. But I'm not devout. I'm ready to "convert" if it turns out to be good. I'm just leaning towards it not being worth it.
     
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    Oh yee of little faith.

    Opening crawl:

    The evil Galactic Empire continues to tighten its grip on the galaxy...etc.
    Commerce and trade is tightly controlled. For many, service to the Empire is their only hope to improve their condition. A young officer, Han Solo, has begun to question his decision to serve...etc.

    While on a routine patrol, he witnesses slave traders, sanctioned by the Empire, torturing a Wookie....

    Opening scene:

    We see a young Han Solo, in uniform, exhale deeply and mutter to himself "This is a bad idea" before grabbing something heavy and smashing the slaver over the back of the head.

    The decision irrevocably made, Chewbacca owes Han a life debt, and the two, now criminals, make their escape and disappear into the dark underbelly of the galaxy, scraping out an existence using their guile and wit.

    "Kid, I've been from one end of the galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange things..."

    The legend is born.
     
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    22:30 Anthony Ingruber doing dub for Han (And Ben).. look how awesome he is! btw worth checking out this video its awesome
     
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    This from Star Wars Underworld.

    Christopher Miller discusses co-directing the Han Solo Anthology film! -B- http://fb.me/3VQCQj0LA

    Exclusive: Get the details on Han Solo's standalone @StarWars movie: http://t.co/W4zudvTTs6
     
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    Anthony Ingruber!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Making a Han Solo spin-off is a big mistake because its almost impossible to put someone in Harrison Ford shoes and inspect him to pull it off.
     
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    While it may not be the best idea, it's still gonna happen. Even if the next actor can't pull it off, I'm sure Lucasfilm will get it as close as they possibly can. I'm cautiously optimistic about this film.
     
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    Trank was always billed to do Episode IX. I'm glad his breakdown was during that Fantastic Four movie, not while directing Star Wars.
     
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    This isn't true, he was slated to do a spin-off.
     
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    Wowww......that list of supposed actors is something to give me a lot of pause for an already dicey project, though I know it was just the writer listing off more prolific names, if you can call it that. There going to have to find someone with the look of Solo or at least be handsome, be tough and have a certain sarcastic swagger. The execs, casting and production team may really have to settle if Ingruber doesn't work --- for god sakes he looks like he may have been born just for this part. He is better off aping Ford, and receiving spoon fed acting direction to maintain the integrity of the established character if they think he can't carry the film, but I think he did well enough in Age of Adaline to stand on his own. We'll see what happens, but definitely not liking what I see here. Hopefully, there is another look a like out there if need be. Ok, I'll be reasonable. Ansel Elgort as a distant galaxy 2nd/3rd option no other/hands tied option.
     
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    I curse this production. We haven't had an actor with the charisma, machismo and stillness of Harrison Ford for a long time (ESPECIALLY none of these spineless pansies they call young Hollywood stars these days) and they will not find anyone suitable for the role. They will not.

    I curse the production, I hope all of the sets burn down prior to shooting and I hope all of the computers crash with all the CGI data being lost. **** this movie. It will screw over the franchise harder than Attack of the Clones could ever have hoped to.

    The film must be stamped out immediately, and I now have a much lower amount of respect for Kasdan for going along with this. Curse this blasphemous garbage. I pray for its cancellation
     
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