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Has Rian 'forced' the destiny's of Rey and Kylo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Darth Chewie, Mar 10, 2018.

  1. FN-3263827

    FN-3263827 First Order CPS
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    the "point" is in what Luke said to Rey: the Force does not belong to the individual; to think the Jedi can "own" it or "control" it is vanity.
    the Force is trying to balance Ren's use of the Force; not the simple fact of his existing or being a Force sensitive (there are Force sensitives all over the galaxy). Ren's power in particular is being used to shift the balance and take control. the Force is reacting to that specific lack of equilibrium.
    you could even say that the Force is trying to counteract Ren's personal imbalance (Snoke even uses those words: you are imbalanced).

    the problem of "balance" in the first six movies is that each side was trying to destroy the other, which is not balance.
    Vader killing Palpatine was not balance. the Jedi, in their "arrogance" (as Luke surmises), believed that's all it would take.
    but all it did was create a power vacuum and all these things rushed in to fill it: an unstable New Republic, a grudged and equally unstable First Order.

    Rey left Ren alive in the throne room because she understood that destroying him was not going to solve the problem of balance.
    she understood that they (he and she) are complementary and that their fight needs to be solved another way ~ though she doesn't know what yet.

    this is why people are speculating that they will either destroy each other (unlikely, i think), fall madly in love (seems possible, but i'm doubting it), or reconcile to make a more stable but divided galaxy in which a Republic and an Order can coexist in relative peace (and ensure that Stormtroopers live on forever). ; D

    balance doesn't mean everyone does the same thing or believes the same thing: it includes life and death, peace and violence, heat and cold, light and dark.

    and that, as Luke says, is the lesson. : D
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  2. CTrent29

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    Killing Kylo Ren is a good idea, whether he is redeemed or not.

    By the way, I find the idea of Rey and Kylo Ren as living embodiments of the "light side" and the "dark side" of the Force rather ridiculous and infantile.

    The idea that Rey represents one side of the Force and Kylo Ren represents the other side does not make sense to me, considering that everyone has both good and evil within them. And this kind of characterization is a sign of bad writing to me.

    What exactly is Rian Johnson's view on what the Force is supposed to be? I find his idea of Rey being the embodiment of "the Light side" and Kylo Ren being "the Dark side" rather simplistic.
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