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Hints that Snoke could still live

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Xeven, Aug 25, 2018.

  1. Xeven

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    Luke projecting himself across the galaxy.
    Kylo and Rey’s connection through the Force caused by Snoke.
    Kylo getting his hand wet while having vision of Rey in rain.

    Why would Snoke fake his death?
    Dark side accolades generally always kill their Masters.
    Snoke wanted Kylo to repeat What Vader failed to do...kill his master and become the Master.
    Also Snoke may be attempting to bring back the Sith through. Kylo.

    Jedi reborn in Rey, Sith Reborn in Kylo.
     
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    Not sure how any of that means Snoke isn't dead.
    He's dead.
     
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    Yep. Dead as Plagueis :D
     
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    Of course. Because he IS Plagueis
     
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    Meaning Snoke was never there.
     
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    But he was?
    Luke couldn't actually touch or interact.

    Snoke clearly interacts with the surroundings.

    The lightsaber is clearly making physical contact with him.
     
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    Why show physical connection between Rey and Kylo when across galaxy other than hint of something more? The rain on Kylo hand.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 25, 2018, Original Post Date: Aug 25, 2018 ---
    Snoke is using dark side powers. Luke was not.
     
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    Exactly. Luke’s projection disappeared into thin air. Snoke was cut completely in two. And remained there long after the event occurred. His tongue was hanging out of his mouth. He is definitely dead and not a projection
     
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    Snoke fulfilled his purpose. He was a plot device for Kylo's development. People finally need to accept this. It's a very simple story telling technique: The villain (Kylo Ren) has to kill the opressor (Snoke) to become the opressor himself.
    => JJ: "Kylo is a villain in the making." In TLJ he become a completed villain. So, no Snoke needed anymore.
     
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    A reminder:


    Snoke is a snooze of a character. His death is the best thing that happened to him.
     
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    If JJ brings Snoke back, it will probably be through time travel. I don't see him using that technique to bring Snoke back, but who knows? As others have mentioned, Snokes dead boy laid there long after the event. The lightsaber tore through him where as with Luke it didn't. The moment the lightsaber went through him it became obvious Luke was not actually there.
     
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    Stop looking for hints. The ST is made up on the fly which means there are no hidden hints. If Snoke comes back then there won't be any clever foreshadowing but rather a "Boom, I'm back!" kinda scenario.
     
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    Snoke is D E D dead. But if in ROTS we learn about unnatural force abilities from Palpatine. I assume these abilities would include bringing somebody back from the dead.

    So maybe the Knights of Ren will will have been taught the secrets to reviving a dead body and they could bring him back.
     
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    I think Snoke is dead, but it would be interesting to learn more about him in IX, in particular, how he and Kylo met. He was somewhat instrumental in Kylo’s turn to the dark: Was he some sort of teacher, a politician in Leia’s circles, a family acquaintance? It would be cool to learn a bit about that. I’m less interested about his rise to power.
     
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    That's a good question but I don't think it hints at Snoke not being dead - although to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Snoke wasn't dead, but I don't see anything in the movie that leads me in that direction of thought. But why did the writers have it so Rey and Kylo's connection could manifest physically? Seems to me to set up the scene where they touch fingers - but what's up with that scene? Why do they need them to touch at a distance?

    What pops into my head is that scene from Interstellar "How, Cooper?" "Love, TARS; love. My connection with Murph. It is quantifiable. It's the key!" Other than that popping into my mind, I don't know. Why did they have that happen? It's a good question and seems like it could(should?) be setting up something important.
     
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    Correct. Snoke living belittles the character development for Ren in usurping Vader's legacy of darkness.

    You're combining two separate powers that, as of now, have no real correlation.
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    Because it allows us to understand exactly what is happening in that scene rather than just allude to it IMO. They are growing more and more connected with each scene.

    Maybe this sort of bridge is something Snoke didn't even fully understand and he didn't realize what kind of connection it would be.
    Remember, the "first" connection was made by Ren when probing Rey's mind.
    So for all we know, Snoke just amplified this.
     
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    There are only two ways that I could see Snoke having a role in E9 be justified on a creative level, and neither involve resurrecting the character:
    1. Through flashbacks that are not in the movie to explain his backstory, but to establish how he ties in with the First Order and how the other heroes knew who he was before Ben Solo went postal.
    2. Through Kylo Ren's nightmares and possibly even hallucinations to highlight the character's mental instability, along with the psychological abuse and physical harm he's faced at his teacher's hands and how it contributes to that.
    But he should not come back to life. His role as a Palpatine wannabe has been fulfilled and it's way more interesting to have Kylo Ren serve as the central villain of the Sequel Trilogy as a whole, given his status as a more dynamic character. Having Snoke come back to life would serve no purpose than to have a "I'm the true final boss, lol" moment in a story that absolutely does not need it.
     
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    Thought Snoke became a floor licker!
     
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    Kylo as a central villain also creates a much more unique and interesting redemption story. He doesn't have to overcome another to be redeemed (Vader over Palps) but rather he has to overcome himself.
     
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