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How and when does Snoke turn Kylo Ren

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Derth Nadir, Dec 4, 2015.

  1. Darth Revan8

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    i think kylo may be vaders apprentice or something along those lines. In force unleashed vader had an apprentice but im not sure if that game is cannon but in lego star wars 3 there is a character that has the name vaders apprentice. i believe lego star wars 3 is cannon so vaders apprentice may be kylo or it could possibly even be snoke. in the trailers we see kylo say i will finish what you started so that may be a little clue hinting that that was his master before or something i dont know just a thought. star_3_First_Frame.png
     
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    I don't think we'll get into it until EP8

    I don't think vader had a body. He became one with the force, wouldn't his body have disappeared like yoda and ben? Luke was just burning armor.

    Also, JJ has said that Maz has been a pirate running a bar for 1000 years, so she prolly wasn't at the academy.
     
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    Maybe Kylo is not a Solo/Skywalker-(I know the odds are really, really low for this scenario) but maybe you are correct and Kylo was a young Vader apprentice, like Star Killer-(the boy) and he is a nobody. Rey is the Skywalker/Solo to continue the Skywalker name and hero story, plus Disney gets to cash in on toys with the name Skywalker. As others have pointed out it makes zero sense to kill the Skywalker name from a marketing standpoint.

    I may get a lot of dislikes for this but I would prefer the bad guy to not be another fallen Skywalker, or Skywalker bloodline.



    I don't think vader had a body. He became one with the force, wouldn't his body have disappeared like yoda and ben? Luke was just burning armor.

    Also, JJ has said that Maz has been a pirate running a bar for 1000 years, so she prolly wasn't at the academy.[/QUOTE]

    I doubt Luke would ceremoniously burnt Vaders suit. The exploding Death Star would take care of that. Luke wanted a proper funeral for his dads body-at least as one could have on the moon of Endor.

    One of the supposed leaks has a scene with Maz stealing the saber from the KoR. Is this true? Who knows. One of my theories is Maz helps Rey escape the slaughter. I have no proof. Just ideas.
     
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    Snoke: "Hey kid, want some blue milk?"

    (Young Kylo Ren): "Would I ever !"

    Snoke kidnaps Kylo Ren and masks his force signature and brainwashes him with blue milk .
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    The opera scene was filmed to add a "creep" factor and because of Ian's strep throat .
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    She could have been both...satellite Jedi .
     
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    I'm thinking he probably also felt his fingers burning too! :)
     
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    When was this released?
     
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    march 22, 2011
     
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    I know it was great performance by Ian I hope Andy/Snoke tops it with a great scene with Kylo.
     
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    Slashfilm quoted it as Serkis. Looks like they got it wrong and it was Abrams.
     
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    1 Word: STARKILLER (TFU I and II)
     
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    Neither Force Unleashed or Lego Star Wars 3 are canon. No Lego games are canon because they break canon on purpose. And Lego Star Wars 3 came out in 2011, before new canon was established. The apprentice in both games is Starkiller and he is not canon either.
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    You never know, but it seems more plausible that Kylo, or someone else on the Dark Side, simply tracked it down and took it.
     
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    He brainwashed a young Kylo about dark vs light. As manipulative Sith dark lords usually do, he gave a biased understanding of the force, and an impressionable kid with no home fell for it. He also use the fact Kylo had a connection to a well known and powerful family to further his belief in using his force powers, specifically for the fight against the ones that would stop them.

    He knew none of this before meeting Snoke and the knights, and I would venture to say, that when certain "facts" don't line up, this might raise conflict within him later in the trilogy.
     
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    I agree that's possible as for Vader he had any apprentices Starkiller/GalenMarek was one of many leading to Luke who IMO was the true one he wanted at his side.
     
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    Maybe he had apprentices searching for potential heirs to his and Palpatine's legacy UNTIL he realized that Luke Skywalker was actually aliiiiive !!! :O
     
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    I think he just sent his apprentices out to do his dirty work after all it's ''jedi hunting season'' at the time Vader could concentrate on his pursuit of Luke which off course began after TNH.
     
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    Jedi hunting season for over 19 years, though ?
     
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    Yes that was before Luke showed off his force potential & Vader wasn't distracted on his focus in finding Obi Wan.
     
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    How do you know that he was looking for Kenovir the ENTIRE time ?
     
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