How do we know Palpatine is really dead?

Is anyone interested in more? In the occult, number 3 there, corresponds to the ancient element FIRE. Think about Kenobi episode 3. The number 4 there on that chart corresponds to the ancient element WATER. Think about Kenobi episode 4. Star Wars is an occult allegory, and the Kenobi series fits beautifully into the rest of the movies from that perspective. They are climbing up the ladder from a kind of spiritual/psychological death, caused by Palpatine and Vader. Jedi consciousness has been entombed. To understand Palpatine in ROTJ and TROS, he is thrown down that staff to the very bottom, the ultimate failure in your consciousness, and a spiritual death. On Exegol isn't there a nav tower that people were confused why they needed it just to find their way up? I remember people saying it was dumb. It's not dumb if you read it as a metaphor. The whole galaxy shows up to keep him from climbing back up that shaft. If only we had that on our own planet, we could have heaven on earth.There doesn't seem to be much interest, so I'll leave it at that.

 

Yep. Spoilerific or one of those cats said there was no Kylo-ben at the OG end. I chuckle at what was, what could have been and what we have been given.
Its all good, Star Wars has always made me laugh.

 

'Hopeful and satisfying ending' - JJ Abrams.
The film ends with the legacy family extinct, and Rey apparently burying Luke and Leia's lightsabres is symbolic of her 'swaddling and burying two children'....Terrio actually said that.

Thus, Rey is 'burying' the Twins. A Palpatine consigning the last Skywalkers to their grave. Then standing smirking on it.

That is actually a horror story.

 

A ceremonial burying, of remains or mementos, has been a tradition in many cultures for millenia. It is a memorial. It symbolises permanency of their memory. Permanent like the earth that they have returned to. We're in perverse territory if paying tribute in such a familiar manner is twisted into a horror story. Maybe burning Leia with hers and Luke's possessions on a pire, like Anakin, is preferable.

 

I saw it more as Rey burying her hopes and dreams of a family - especially as earlier in the film she is seen gazingly longingly at children playing, and is given a fertility necklace - as becoming a Jedi meant a life committed to the Force and no attachments.( interestingly, Daisy Ridley said post TFA that she 'didn't think Rey would become a Jedi').

Abrams and Terrio wanted to end the ST on Tattooine as a sign that the film had come full circle....but as many have pointed out, Tattooine wasn't very popular with the Skywalkers. Leia was treated as a slave there, as was Anakin, his mother died there and Luke couldn't wait to get away from there! And I found it hard to believe that Rey, who had wasted years alone on a desert world waiting for a family to come back for her...ends up alone on a desert world.

It was a stark contrast to how the OT ended.

 

Nothing is more perverse than stealing someone's family name and using as your own.


And what kind of memorial does anyone have when the items are buried in the sand with no marker?


How would anyone ever know you were there, let alone what's beneath your feet?


Seems like Rey nailed the best ways to erase/replace and forget someone.


I love the irony of Star Wars.

 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . "stealing"?

 

Stealing: The act of taking the personal property of another without his consent and knowledge; theft; larceny.

To add injury to the ultimate insult.... Rey Palpatine STOLE the Skywalker family-name, post mortem.


"Excellent. You have done well, Granddaughter...."

 

We live in the sort of strange times where I'm honestly not sure whether this is meant to be serious or not.

 

Nothing is real, everything is permitted.

This is the way.

 

I think that Terrio was making out that Rey was Luke and Leia's 'surrogate' daughter...hence the proud grins on the faces of their Force ghosts at the end. He admitted that as a kid he 'shipped' Luke and Leia...before they were 'outed' as siblings.

Let's just hope that if Rey does appear in future post ST stuff, she doesn't act like Joffrey Baratheon.......

 

Palpatine is only gone if each individual throws their inner emperor down the shaft and keeps him there. If enough people do that, they collectively keep him down, and bring forth a better galaxy.

You can choose to bring light to the world. You would not choose to bring light into the world unless there was that darkness. In a dual world, they go together.

 

Or, we can all do what Rey did....

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Wow. Isn't it creepy the way they steal dead people's names and give them to ships, hospitals, theatres and streets? Whole towns and countries. Chemical elements. Geographical features. Comets and galaxies.

 

I served my country aboard US NAVY vessels named after dead men and not one of us changed our last names to honor them any further.

Comets are named after the men who discovered them, not the normies too busy to see them.

Theft of a name is not the same as memorializing it.

Obfuscation never works on me.

 

Burying the lightsabers at the end, is a metaphor in the Star Wars myth. If you get stuck in the idea that it's a burial of remains of dead people, you won't see it. They are not dead. They are ascended spiritually-- part of you inside... just as Palpatine was not dead but thrown down to a hellish state of existence trapped in matter with no spirit. Dead in spirit. They're talking about your consciousness.

It's not only Luke's lightsaber. It was his father's too, and they both failed with it. It was mended after Kylo and Rey fought over it-- a struggle in your mind. Luke and Leia are the sun and moon. I posted recently about Leia as the mythological moon goddess, in the Kenobi ep. 5 comments. At the end of Revenge of the Sith, the sun and moon were divided up, leaving the moon in darkness, representing the material world that has lost it's connection to the sacred. At the end, the lightsabers are placed together into the material world. Think about what it means.

Also, the blue lightsaber only succeeded after the original trilogy, after Luke returned his father to the heart. On the little rainbow chart I posted, blue is the mind. The green lightsaber was the heart. The purple lightsaber of Mace Windu was spirit. Notice, Luke did not use his green sword at the end of TLJ.

The blue lightsaber in ROTS lopped off the hand holding the purple lightsaber.

Before ANH, in the Kenobi series, there's a hand with no lightsaber in it, lopped off by red, and a big box of lightsabers not wielded at all anymore.

The red lightsaber in TESB lopped off the hand holding the blue lightsaber. We're going down that shaft.

The green lightsaber returns in ROTJ, and lops off the hand with the red lightsaber. Consciousness was saved through the heart.

Rey with her yellow lightsaber, on that chart I posted, is in the yellow position, after the mind is mended.

Understanding this is to understand Palpatine's "death," thrown down that shaft. In some ways, it's the Wizard of Oz in space. You're bringing together the blue sword, green sword, and yellow sword to defeat the wicked witch. Scarecrow, tin man, lion.

Keep Luke and Leia in mind as the sun and moon when you watch the end of TLJ. He has projected his light across the galaxy to her. The spiritual sun ascends in full brightness.

 

The ships are in possession of names stolen from dead people. Those names don't belong to those ships. That's stealing. Doesn't matter what the intent was. George Lucas stole Luke's name and gave it to a sound editing facility. It's a horror show of theft!

 

After the red lightsaber in TESB there, in my previous comment, Luke went down the tubes too, but managed to hang onto the heart on the way down. He was saved by love, and care by connecting to his sister. Male and female came together there, hanging on at Cloud City. Go look at the heart chakra, and the hexagram in the middle. That's what we are seeing presented- the male symbol and the female, joined in the heart.
He returned with the green lightsaber, centered in love. One of the beautiful scenes is Vader looking at his son's green lightsaber that he built. It's a gift of love to his father despite all he has done, and he knows it. Vader is already starting to melt there.

Then we get into the Mandalorian, between the original trilogy and the sequel trilogy. Grogu chose the armor over Yoda's green lightsaber. What does that mean? Yet to be seen. That's before the events of TROS,. Therefore, Luke is the only one who has wielded the green lightsaber up to the that point. Right?. Palpatine had not been kept down by the people yet.

Light side
7 Purple/violet - spirit, transcendence
6 Indigo blue
5 Blue - mind
4 Green - heart, caring, compassion, conscience, balance (See Luke Skywalker)
--------------- (((the roadblock in Kenobi episode 3)))----------
3 Yellow - willpower, action
2 Orange
1 Red - base consciousness, matter, mere survival <<<< KEPT DOWN HERE
Dark side
...at the bottom of the shaft or energy tube--------- inside of you.
At those bottom 3, Freck is doing the driving, and he's going to betray you. You have to knock him out and get through that fence.

Palpatine is still alive in our world.

 

Understanding Palpatine's death, continued.... Esoteric Star Wars.

Where I placed the roadblock of Kenobi ep. 3, on the chart, is also equal to the crossing over of Anakin into the temple at the end of ROTS. If you watch ROTS, observe the overhead view of Anakin entering the temple to destroy everything good. There is a cross on the ground. He is sent by the emperor from the bottom of that chart, up into the temple to knock out the higher consciousness, leaving the galaxy in darkness. So the roadblock also fits, with episode 3 showing hints of movie 3. To Joseph Campbell, the 4th chakra, the green position on the chart, is the cross of Jesus, where you die to your animal nature and are born again. The virgin birth.

The number 7, sacred in the mysteries, is in the bible as well, as the 7 days of creation. In Exodus, on the 6th day, the slaves exiting to freedom gathered twice as much food on the 6th day, and kept the 7th holy. Seventh day, god rested.

When you get this, you see that Palpatine in ROTJ has been thrown back down to the bottom of that energy ladder. Each person individually has to put him down there, so that collectively, like the end of TROS, we can prevent another evil empire from rising, and have a better world.

Kenobi tearing down that barricade in Kenobi ep. 3, is him going back into that destroyed temple, that's blocked off by the dark side. Does that make sense?