SPECULATION How does the lightsaber survive Bespin? Simple answer no one seems to have considered

Ya but, the Sith ended with Vader and Palpatine. So obviously we have new dark side force users around and they're not Sith. There's only so much wiggle room they have here and it doesn't include directly contradicting canon.

I'll give you that a lightsaber might very well be heat resistant in general.

But my point about Venus is it's main atmospheric feature is that it's over 95% carbon, and many times more dense than the atmosphere of any terrestrial body in our solar system. Before you're killed by the relatively small amount of sulfuric acid rain you're gonna die from the extreme heat and atmospheric pressure.

And I'll repeat: Real world physics do not apply in Star Wars, so it's not really worth getting into that debate. And for those instances where defiance of real world physics isn't enough, they have a get out of jail free card via the Force. So they can get as stupid as they want to really.

But from a pure story telling point of view, kicking the story off with a floating lightsaber falling to the planet is really weak. Imagine reading that crawl.

I'm fine with a lightsaber being found amongst wreckage of a ship that is sent on a collision course after a battle or something along those lines. I'm fine with our heroes searching for the identity of the weapons owner. But the story actually fixating on this lightsaber from the first shot and it being the main driving force of the plot is very lame and I doubt that's really the case.

And how did we go from vague rumors of a lightsaber floating through space and landing on the planet, to Luke being imprisoned or in exile to acceptance that he's guarding some kind of tomb and Anakin's old lightsaber is the key?

If there was ever any misinformation purposefully put out there I'd reckon this is it.

Ya know these same rumors started at Badass Digest with Devin Faraci where we also got rumors like Han and Chewie piloting a Super Star Destroyer at the start of the film, and a description of the trailer that ended up being wrong.

 

I am still wondering... WHY this saber.... why not another one... with all the Jedi killed during Order 66... there must be a thousand of them on Coruscant's version of EBAY.

 

The rumor of Luke's lightsaber leaving Bespin, into space then making it way to Tattoonie? Now I have looked at many star wars maps to see how close they are together, but there are too many maps to even know what ones to rely on. So does anyone even have correct one, because I can't find one.

Would the robot part of the hand survive the trip? It would burn up so I guess some of the hilt would be burnt also, perhaps maybe this is reason Kylo has to modify it.

I did some digging and found some interesting pictures from Empires. One picture what looks like the hand and Hilt falling from Bespin Cloud City, the same shaft Luke falls from and lands on some antenna thing.

1.First journey down into the shaft leading out of Bespin Cloud City.


2.Here we can see it falling down.


3.Here it is outside, with a close up of what we can make it out more. So how does it go into space from it's still going down?


4.Just picture this floating in space going towards Tattoonie. The hand most likely would have disintegrated, over the 10 some years, while the hilt would most likely get some dents and such.


5.Now picture Luke's lightsaber somewhere on the surface of Tattoonie, where some how Finn and Rey find it.


6.Next Finn and Rey take it to Han Solo where some how he knows its Luke's. The village is where I assume they bring it to Han solo.

LOL yes I know its a cheap picture, but the only one I could so far find with the three.

7.Next I suppose Finn has it. But then where does Rey get one? Rey like her brother already has one from being one of the Seven, Luke's former seven padawan's.

8.Snow forest where the battle takes place between Rey's brother, her and Finn and Luke skywalker also where Han solo dies. Either Finn or Rey has it, I think Finn has it.

 

Firstly, I'd like to say I like your idea of tracking this thing, and to say I've been on-again, off-again as far as the rumors and what is new canon go.

Personally, my thought was that the lightsaber floating in space might be Luke's green saber, as in going with another rumor it

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has somehow been encoded with important information regarding the Rebellion, that is still pertinent, or something along those lines. That seems like it couldn't happen had he really lost it on Bespin, the blue lightsaber.

That said, if we go with it being his blue lightsaber... there are ways to work around it, though difficult. I remember hearing something about Vader fishing the lightsaber out somehow, though that might have just been the old EU and not canon at the moment. Were it to just drop to Bespin, a gas giant, I don't see how it could be retrieved or even survive the pressure. The thing we see dropping in the movie may have actually been intended to be just some crud or something unrelated, with the lightsaber remaining in Cloud City's bowels somewhere.

In any case, then we're faced with the issue of it somehow finding its way to the desert planet (possibly Tatooine) through space. Tricky tricky. On that, there is one thing I kind of liked that was put forward by someone, @MarsPhoenix I believe, that the lightsaber (either one, blue or green) was somehow acquired by Ren and his forces, and then released "into nature" in space near Tatooine to allow the Force to do its work and find its way to its rightful master, with Tatooine probably being known as the origin planet of Luke the Jedi/Luke the Murderer. Kind of hokey, but it returns the Force to the original mysticism and enforces the idea of the sides being composed of religious zealots, which I love, and at least leaves us with a plausible reasoning for the rumor to be how it is.

Going forward, some speculation put down by @Chairman Kaga of Rey being a former padawan/knight that is putting her past behind her and hiding that part of her identity. Thus Finn is the one with the lightsaber, with Rey refusing to admit she knows how to use it or the Force. Later during the big duel, Finn still has it but is beaten badly, at which point Rey faces her past, takes up the lightsaber, and shows herself for what she truly is. Thus she has it in the end.

http://thecantina.starwars7news.com...-final-duel-and-reys-forceful-awakening.2332/

 

The controversy here is that there is no agreement among us fans about when the last time we saw the blue lightsaber was. Some are sure it fell into the clouds when Luke fell down that final chute. Others, like me, are sure that the last time we saw it was when Luke's hand was disconnected from his arm. That wispy thing you see in your picture #2 is actually Luke (believe it or not), not his hand.

Personally, I don't see it as a stretch of the imagination by any means to suppose that the lightsaber (and the hand) found its way to an entirely different place than Luke did. Also, once Luke took the plunge I would imagine that Vader would demand that a search take place. Luke escaped, but his saber didn't. At that point the lightsaber could have found its way into any number of different people's hands, ultimately leading it to the sand planet in TFA.

*IF* the lightsaber speculation is true, I hope that it's this lightsaber. It was a physical bridge between the prequels and the OT, and can serve that function again in the new trilogy. Symbolism and poetry.

 

No one knows what happened to Luke's lightsaber after his father maimed him in Cloud City. I don't get why it's assumed that it was ejected from the facility. That was never shown on screen. For all we know his lightsaber could have been too light to open the secondary chute in the ventilation shaft. From my estimations an installation like cloud city would require an army of utility droids to maintain and clean. It's possible, while hovering around the ventilation system a utility droid stumbled upon Luke's saber, collected it, and did god knows what else with it.

 

According to the old Marvel Comics Bespin had an Earth-like planet below its cloud layers, inhabited by the Ugnaughts. Thus it's not a "gas planet" in the technical sense.

Tibanna gas - is the rare "anti-gravitational" (The Art of the Empire Strikes Back, an official ESB publication featuring source material from the making of the film) gas Cloud City exports (and essentially what keeps the city and Han Solo encased in carbonite afloat). As such it has obviously properties of negative matter (not to be confused with antimatter or dark matter), e.g. Avatar's Unobtainium.

Either Luke's lightsaber fell on the planet until discovered by a Hobbit...pardon...Ugnaught (or else) or it somehow landed in a pocket of Tibanna gas that was eventually 'harvested' by Cloud City personnel.

EDIT: I see there's now an alternate and official explanation though I can't say I like it. So somebody as heavy as Luke got sucked in into an air canal but his 'light' lightsaber just fell all the way down to Bespin's main reactor? How convenient both for Luke and the rationalization of the lightsaber find.

 

Or, as the placard says, in the industrial depths of the city. What's hard to understand about that? It fell down a chute and landed in some trash compactor or something.

 

Many Bothans died to find that sabre...