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How much are Anakin and Ben (un)alike?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Porgtastic, Jan 20, 2018.

  1. Porgtastic

    Porgtastic Rebel Trooper

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    I thought it would be interesting to compare these two characters and see where they are the same and where they differ since they are family.
    This character analysis is just for fun, feel free to (dis)agree.

    According to Han, Ben is too much like Anakin.
    I found that a strange statement since I think that Ben and Anakin are nothing alike.

    Very unalike actually..
    And yet, they both walk the same path.
    Lets see how unalike...

    Childhood of Anakin
    Was a slave who grew up with his mother and without father.
    Was very much loved by her and despite him being a slave of Watto he was more or less treated like normal personnel.
    Personality: Sociable and upbeat, very self assured and sensitive.
    Forms strong attachments with the people he loves.

    Adolescence of Anakin
    Trained in becoming a Jedi by Obi Wan.
    Falling in love and married Padme.
    Turns to the dark side out of fear of losing Padme.
    Personality: Self assured and cocky, arrogant in his considerable power. forms obsessive attachments.

    Adult Anakin (Darth Vader)
    Anakin turns into Darh Vader.
    Emotionless automaton, cruel, single-mindedly evil, self assured, composed.

    And now....

    Childhood of Ben
    Grew up privileged with two parents who were never around.
    Was probably a lonely child with lots of nanny's, and robotic servants.
    Never forms any real attachments.
    Personality: Sensitive and unsure, depressed by feelings of negligence. unsocial.

    Adolescence of Ben
    Was sent to Luke by Leia, probably having troubles with dealing with moody teenager Ben.
    Was trained in becoming a Jedi probably against his will.
    Luke has a thought of killing Ben in his sleep, Ben turns to the dark.
    Personality: Uncertain and rebellious, prone to bursts of anger, unable to connect.

    Adult Ben (Kylo Ren)
    Ben turns into Kylo Ren.
    Highly emotional, cruel, unhinged, uncertain, conflicted, anger management problem.


    Conclusion:
    They are opposites in personality, but are both highly temperamental and very strong in the force.

    Anakin turned to the dark because of obsessive attachments (fear of losing Padme)
    Ben turned to the dark because of a lack off attachments and feelings of abandonment.
     
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    According to Han, Ben is too much like Anakin.
    I found that a strange statement since I think that Ben and Anakin are nothing alike.


    I think Ben is more of the opposite side of the coin from his father than his grandfather.
     
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    Yet Snoke thinks he has too much the heart of his father.
    Then again he seems very unlike both Han and Leia by what we know of him so far.
     
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    "No Ben I don't like you I think you're a fake kid,".. Like, that doesn't sound like Han Solo? I can't see Anakin torturing an infant to make you scream, Kylo Renn would.
     
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    Anakin was indoctrinated into a system that told him personal attachments were wrong, so the one personal attachment he had by ROTS was the one thing he feared losing enough to fall to the dark side for it.

    Ben is trying actively to take the "no personal attachments" thing to the extreme, which kinda highlight's the PT Jedi Order's hypocrisy when it comes to that rule as it doesn't really prevent people from falling to the dark side.

    You can be "on the dark side" either via selfish possessiveness of something (Anakin) or by trying to (from a certain point of view) selfishly trying to not have personal attachments to anything.

    PT - too attached.
    ST - not attached enough.

    Another play on this balance thing. The ideal is probably somewhere in-between these two extremes.
     
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    I wasn't talking about Han's heart.
     
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    I'm gonna start the conversation, Han's heart is cold.

    Like, in space cold.
     
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    I think they are completely unalienable. I mean Ben Is way more unstable than Anakin.
     
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