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How to cure foolish misguided bad guys like Kylo or Hux?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by oldbert, Mar 26, 2016.

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Whatt to do with guys like Kylo or Hux?

  1. Put them in the trash compactor together with Phasma

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  2. Arrest them in an old Jedi temple together with Yoda as their strict force ghost teacher

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  3. Just find a wife for them and they will be cured from everything just fine

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  4. Give them a job as simple technicians and they soon will be cured of their arrogance

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  5. There is just no hope at all for them

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  6. sthg else

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  1. oldbert

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    I would be glad to hear your ideas about how to cure guys like Hux or Kylo:)
     
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    Have Hux overthrow Snoke and Kylo be cast out of the KOR after he's told to kill his mother but can't get himself to do it and go on an arc similar to Darth Maul .
     
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    hahaha ~ i was just posting about this in the romance thread.

    i dunno what Hux's problem is.

    son of Imperials, raised on propaganda and spite? can he be turned? his single redeeming qualities seem to be that he's capable and efficient, but talk about someone driven by greed and power. he'd need to be de-progammed and put to charity work on some backwater planet at hard labor (and even then i don't know if it would "break" him).

    i think Hux is a lost cause in the ST. he'll die a villain. ​

    Kylo Ren has a more optimistic prognosis.

    he knows right from wrong and is choosing wrong under the influence of someone who holds a lot of power over him. remove the influence and he's probably a lot more easily de-programmed.

    i think he needs to be captured, stripped of his own power, and given a cold hard bath of reality. once they "destroy" him (because reality surely will), he then needs someone (not his family) to help him put himself back together ~ and he needs some direction and purpose. solving the family problem is probably long-term.

    Ren Ben's two bugaboos are trust and self-confidence. solve those, and he could make it out alive and well.
     
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    In the case of Kylo, it is very possible. The very grandfather he idolizes was redeemed (and he killed younglings!) and his family is full of protagonists.
    In the case of Hux, it will not happen. For starters, he is a supporting villain. He simply isn't the focus. And when you factor in his backstory and his viewpoint, there is no chance that Hux will ever be a good guy.

    And now, it is time for me to be snarky:
    "Just find a wife for them and they will be cured from everything just fine"
    That worked so well for Anakin.
    "Give them a job as simple technicians and they soon will be cured of their arrogance"
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    @AstromechRecords, @FN-3263827:

    Hehehe..to summarize it for Hux.. Trash Compactor as soon as the story allows.

    and Kylo.. no simple cure so far.. but a small chance that Rey could once more show him who really ist the boss of the force..? Perhaps what he needs is a strong hand eh light saber swinging dominatrix:)
     
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    His was pretty much born evil but it's not his dusky which is why I think it's a possibility --- however slim --- that he could be turned .
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 26, 2016, Original Post Date: Mar 26, 2016 ---
    I think that Kylo needs a good force spanking from his uncle ;) .
     
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    yaargh! that one burns ~ hahaha

    for all we know, that's why he went Dark in the first place.
     
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    He got...BUTThurt ;) ?
     
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    wow ~ i'm going to back away before this gets real weird.

    hahaha
     
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    ...that was not intended to be dirty in any way.
     
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    And that's what Anakin said.
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    Kylo is to unstable. Lets face it if there was no influence and fear of Snoke Kylo will start to cry in front of Han , he will got one dady slap and they will go home.

    I suggest a method of destroying Snoke or , in case he is Plagueis , give him a last chance to run to some other Galaxy.
     
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    I think that Kylo has a few lose screws in his head since birth and Anakin's influence has been overreaching in his life but I think it's all due to Snoke's influence .
     
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    Does Hux even know who Kylo's mother is? I know Snoke does, but what if no one else knows. I bet that would be an interesting thing, that they are trying to crush Kylo's mom, but they don't know that she is his mom. Hux is doing his job, he believes in it, he is a bad guy to us, but he believes he is doing the right thing. Kylo probably does too, but I don't think he is on the same page as the rest of the FO. Hux doesn't seem to like Kylo at all. Snoke is probably putting ideas in Kylo's head pretending to be Darth Vader.
     
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    Hux is next Tarkin and he will pass like Tarkin.

    Kylo is next Vader and he will pass like Vader, he will be brought to the light side at the end, and than he will die.

    The last scene will be ghost spirit of Ben Solo hugging astounded ghost spirit of his belowed gradfather.
     
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    I hope it's not another Death Star for Hux. Die cooler Hux, Die cooler.
     
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    No its not another Death star. Star Killer base just resembles Death Star but its in fact somehing else, because its 25 times larger than the Death Star.

    EDIT. anyway I hope they are not building another one?

    EDIT n.2 Yes Hux is cool character and very capable. If he was Force sensitive Kylo will wash floors on resurgent class star destroyer.
     
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    Kill them!
     
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    if Snoke has forbidden the speaking of Kylo Ren's original name by decree (so sayeth the Visual Dictionary), i'm guessing people in the FO know it. certainly it seems like Hux would know it as one of Snoke's highest ranking Generals. could be part of why Hux and Ren hate each other to begin with.
     
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    @FN-3263827, @Boushhdisguise:
    I think @Boushhdisguise brought up an interesting aspect. How would it affect Kylo if Hux attacks his mother's spacecraft. Could such a scenario trigger a deathly conflict between them? Or what will follow if Kylo himself has to attack a spaceship after an order of Snoke and he wounds his mother without knowing before the attacks? Could things like those start him turning against Snoke? Thoughts'?
     
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