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How to make Finn Force Sensitive?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Ammianus Marcellinus, Feb 7, 2016.

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If the writers should decide to make Finn force sensitive, how should they proceed?

  1. By giving it a backstory which fits Finn's original quest for a new belonging in TFA

  2. Just give him force powers. No additional story or explanation required

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  1. Ammianus Marcellinus

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    A poll thread, just vote. This poll start out from the conjectural premise that Finn's force sensitivity will be revealed in episodes VIII or IX.

    If there are people who don't see their preferred choice represented in the poll choices please state so below.
     
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    If he is then hey will set the stage for it in VIII...maybe make it as if Finn thinks that something is wrong with him and tries to reject it thinking its a curse and whatnot but Rey and/or Luke and or Kylo Ren teaches him to embrace it by the beginning of IX z
     
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    You do know there's more than 2 choices to this right?
    All you did was present your side of the argument and a nonsensical argument and ask which ones better.
     
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    I voted the backstory option, force powers cannot be gained, i was worried experimental means would be called upon like he was a lab rat being tested I don't want that for Finn, if the force was with him we would have seen it in TFA, Rey would have sensed it.
     
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    rey couldn't even sense her own powers and Ren didn't know rey had any till she blocked his probe. just cause they didn't sense it doesn't mean they arent there
     
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  6. Ammianus Marcellinus

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    No No, no discussion just a poll. The discussion is out there running 400 pages on the Finn thread :p Just bloody vote! :p
     
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    The force wasn't awoken in rey when she was born. She had to feel it in herself. It was a feeling, an occurrence that was more inside than out.
    That's not what they meant.
    The force was always around. It flows through all life. Some just can't feel it. Not until they believe in themselves and not until they believe in the force.


    Your options make it seem like there needs to be some explanation about finn as a child, otherwise he's just getting the force.

    Your options rely on the fact that rey will have her back story told, one that'll show that she was always meant for greatness.

    They don't have to do that with finn...hell. they didn't have to do that with rey. We can see Finn's beginning of his journey to embracing the force just by watching the force awakens. That is his backstory.

    He's a grunt. Raised from birth to be another cog in the machine. Until one day he just feels that everything about him isn't right. His place in the galaxy isn't where he's currently at, then the story begins.

    It wouldn't be out of nowhere, cause they already developed the character, AND he'd go through even more development in the second film

    Your options imply that he's going to wake up from a coma shooting lightning.

    Your options imply that luke is inferior to rey because he had to train.

    Would it seriously make Finn any less of a Jedi if he actually had to use that shooting drone to practice blocking stuff? Would it make him less of a Jedi if he had to run around with Maz (new yoda) carrying her on his back and what not until finally he gets it?
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    Think about it as a career choice

    It really helps to be born into the acting world. But every now and again, someone comes along who can learn how to act...without his parents being will smith or Martin sheen.

    Finn is the Kris kristofferson, just a regular Joe who made a career choice....and before ya know it he was killin it as whistler in Blade, and history was never the same.
     
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    Finn doesn't look FS at all in the movie. But I expect Rey to become as much as powerful to make people be FS if she wants to.

    But not yet.
     
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    I miss a third and a fourth option.
    We already have new characters who can use the force. (Kylo Ren and Rey)
    Then we have Luke Skywalker, possible Snoke and Benicio Del Toro's character on the horizon. (and Leia as force sensitive)
    Finn using the force feels shoe-horned in my opinion.
    Giving everyone force powers, makes it ordinary and not special.
    PT - lightsabers were used too much, in the ST - excessive force abuse?
    It looks that the OT got it right, thanks to the limitations back then.
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    This is very similar to Rey's experience in TFA.

    Edit: I disagree with the disagree.
    What do you want? this - let the whole cast use the force?
    This is one of the reasons that I'am glad that not a fanboy is in control.
    Pity, because I guess some of us could come up with a better story as the one from TFA, no doubt.
     
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    POLL ONLY PLEASE

    Discuss in FINN thread
     
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    Vote in garbage poll only please. Discuss garbage options in another location.
    Aye aye
     
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    I would like to vote, but I miss some options.
     
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  13. Ammianus Marcellinus

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    yeah, if I would put the no-force option down here some of the Force-Finn fans will hunt me down.
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    the poll is what you make of it, my own preferred option is not even in there. It's a reflection of the discussion of the Finn force sensitive fans.
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    I don't think he needs force powers either, I just wanted to know how some of the Finn fans prefer it to be implemented if the writers take that decision.
     
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    I hope your right.
    Agreed that's worth looking into.
     
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    Most people won't vote anyway. The five votes on "just give him forcepowers, no further explanation required" say enough I think :p Those are the same five people showering people with negative ratings in the Finn thread if you say Finn does not need to be force sensitive and that it breaks his character. This post will also receive those dislikes by those same five people :p
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    Yeah, I know. I agreed with you 100%. I don't need Finn to be force sensitive, and even don't want him to be force sensitive. If he's force sensitive he is not special anymore and it breaks his character and choices in TFA. I'm doing another poll in a few days, this is just a poll to see how many people subscribe to an idiotic argument. Yes option two. Option one is sympathetic. Option two is just stupid and thick. And hell, I made them up :p:D
     
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    yeah, sorry: you needed other options.

    i couldn't vote on this because i think neither are very dramatically interesting choices given what he know of the character so far..
     
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    I didn't vote on my own poll either :p I completely agree with you and you with me, I know :p At least the first option is sympathetic, the second option is just rather silly and shallow, I'm suprised five people choose it, but we already know who they are.

    In a short time, I'm doing anotherl poll, don't worry and it will include my preferred choice: don't give Finn force powers! :D
     
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    well maybe include a choice for "let Finn embrace the tenets of the Force and learn it that way". he doesn't need some genetic excuse for FS. while i don't exactly see him going full-shane monk on it, maybe his near-death experience will give him a desire to connect with the Force.

    i strongly dislike the whole hereditary thing. it was never how i saw the OT.
     
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    I agree, Finn does not need to have force powers to be special.
    He is the first deserted Stormtrooper in a Star Wars movie.
    That makes him unique. (in a good and refreshing way)
    In my opinion giving Finn force powers would feel forced and could possibly break his character.
    I hope the writers don't give in the fan requests on this one.
    Recently there was a rewrite for VIII, I guess for Poe Dameron - more screentime, but who knows. (maybe Finn becomes Lukes pupil No.2)
     
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    No I don't like it too, they did it with Rey for this movie and I understand why..she needs to be revealed as a skywalker...., The force for skywalkers is just one of many hereditary skills like mechanical skills and piloting abilities.

    "let Finn embrace the tenets of the Force and learn it that way" basically is the first choice. In fact I only asked: a. do you want the story to explain Finn's force sensitivity or b. do you just want to give him force powers without explaining them by means of a story. 5 people voted the second which is a ridiculous choice. I understand the first choice, but don't like it personally, because it is an unnecessary addition to Finn's character, but leave room for the story to do something innovative with it.
     
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