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How worried should we be about solo?

Discussion in 'Solo' started by Darth Ezra, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. Darth Ezra

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    From jump street we were pretty much all dubious of this project and things have only seemed to deteriorate from there with the firing of lord and miller and ron howard reshooting possibly the entire film. this was all bad, but its still star wars and disney right? disney doesn't fail and uncle ron was entertaining us on the twitters. The film finally wrapped and we got title, full steam ahead... right? This was back in october, more than two months ago. And since then... radio silence.

    Someone will rightfully reply that reshoots prevented an earlier teaser and then lucasfilm wanted focus solely on TLJ. First off, massive reshoots didn't prevent R1 from putting stuff out. secondly, we are five months away from solo, five months. we've seen nothing beyond stills from social media. with all the trouble this movie has been through you'd think KK would want to put something out there to get people even somewhat excited. behind the scenes reel, an early poster like TFA had, anything would be nice. but instead this feels like its been locked away like they are embarrassed of it.

    my concerns really start to jump when you add to this the time solo is coming out. with the troubles TLJ is having in its second week vs jumanji it makes me very worried how a luke warm property like solo will do in late may vs infinity war in its third week and then beginning of june vs deadpool two. this could be a disaster of epic proportions. made worse by the fact they likely doubled the initial budget thanks to the reshoots.

    any other film this troubled would have been canned or exiled to january. but because its star wars and because they went double or nothing on the cost, what will disney do? stay in may and risk a humiliation 10x worse than TLJ box office drop or do what they've done twice already and kick it two december and do a proper hype campaign to hopefully salvage its flagging reputation? or does it not matter because the film is a lost cause?
     
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    It sure is nice 2 b First.

    I'm slightly worried that the TLJ backlash may bring Solo down.
     
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    I have faith that Ron Howard will give us a good movie. Everything I hear about Lord and Miller made me really happy they got fired. I was never really excited for Solo but once they were fired and they announced Ron Howard I became really excited for it. The Box Office will probably be a problem but I don't know if it will be a problem of massive proportion. I hope Solo does well because I really love the idea of the Anthology films and I don't want one movie to derail the entire idea.
     
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    It's Star Wars, it'll most likely do well. As for the quality of the movie, we don't know yet. I could see it being the Star Wars equivalent to Guardians of the Galaxy (being a surprisingly good film that nobody had high expectations for) or being the Star Wars equivalent to The Amazing Spider-Man movies (more of a character that everybody likes, but is a completely unnecessary movie(s)).

    As for the reason that it's been quiet for the last month or two, it's probably because Lucasfilm/Disney has been more focused on the release of The Last Jedi. Now that that's winding down, we should be hearing or seeing more stuff about this movie in no time.

    I see where you're coming from, but I don't think that would be the thing that could/would keep fans from going to see the movie, if anything. TLJ has little connection to Solo. Besides, TFA did pretty well (and most people liked the movie) even after the backlash from the prequels.
     
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    Ron Howard is a bankable director, he has a world already designed for him, story and just had to piece it together... fingers crossed :)

    That being said, the Tripe (IMO) that was TLJ will hurt it’s Box Office, the younger kids may have loved TLJ but a lot of us old gits had real trouble with it (talking to a lot of my friends for fan opinions) and that’s the demographic that resonate with Han Solo the most, OT era watchers, which is probably why they could be nervous.

    Lastly, recasting (effectively) one of the most loved characters in the history of cinema, is a pretty hard thing to do, which was why it was never good idea in my opinion.
     
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    I honestly have no idea on how the Han Solo movie will turn out. I'm not going to pretend that I'm some kind of psychic who can predict the movie's outcome.

    By all reason "A New Hope" should have bombed at the box office. Lucas had great difficulty during the film's production. A lot of problems with it. People were predicting doom for its box office performance. And it ended up being a big hit. So . . . for me to predict that the new Han Solo movie will fail without having seen it, strikes me as a bit idiotic.

    But if the media and public truly wanted the movie to fail without seeing it . . . then who knows? It just might fail.


    Four actors have played a part in the portrayal of Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader. Two actors have portrayed Obi-Wan Kenobi. Two actors have portrayed Boba Fett. Two actresses have portrayed Mon Mothma. Four actors have portrayed Henry "Indiana" Jones Jr. . . . and three of them on a television show. I really don't see the point in raising a fuss over new actors portraying Han Solo and Lando Calrissian. I find it irrelevant.
     
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    It's not irrelevant, but on the other hand it isn't a hurdle that's impossible to overcome: just difficult. Perhaps the Indiana Jones case seems like the closest parallel, except for the fact that The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles was a TV show, and it came out in the pre-internet age. A new cinematic Solo seems harder for a lot of people to swallow, and now that we have social media, everyone can clamor about how angry or skeptical or even just wary they are of the prospect. I'm keeping an open mind, and I hope it's good: what Star Wars fans would root for a new Star Wars movie to be bad? But I admit that I'm cautiously optimistic at best...
     
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    At this point, there's no way they move it back to December. If they had any intention of doing that, they would've done it soon after the firing of Lord/Miller and hiring of Ron Howard.

    I think Lucasfilm considers it almost a blessing that they'll be able to tuck this film away in May instead of having to build up their whole year around it. I love the cast, I like Ron Howard and of course I want a Star Wars movie to succeed, but there was heavy doubts about Solo before all of the production woes, and obviously they've only made the doubts worse. Whether the film ends up being good or bad, whether it makes good money or not, the blow will be softer if it's released in May, right after TLJ hype/Inifinity War release than as I mentioned earlier, having Lucasfilm build their entire year around Solo only to have it end up potentially being a commercial and critical flop... at least as much of a flop a Star Wars movie could be.

    Through it all though, I remain optimistic. I adore Donald Glover and Emilia Clarke. The cast themselves as actors are fantastic and I don't see why they shouldn't translate well into the SW universe. Also, the script, which just happens to be Lawrence Kasdan's last has been given tons of praise.
     
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    At this point i think we can all hope we get a GoTG surprise hit. A film that most thought wood bomb.

    This movie had 2 good directors replaced by an even better director. Personally i think LK is a tad overrated. Most of the good parts of TESB r ritten by Leigh Bracket. But he's a good ritter none t/ less.

    So i do have "hope".
     
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    To address the crux of the thread – should we be “worried”? No. Worst case, Star Wars can survive a dud or two. If Solo is poorly received and does way less than expected, then it will hopefully be a learning lesson for DIS/LFL to not do this again. No big deal.

    If it’s a lousy movie, then that’s nothing more than confirming expectations. If it turns out pretty decent, then that will have exceeded expectations. No sense worrying about that.
     
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    I think Han Solo himself wouldn't worry too much =)

    He was always into taking chances, going against all odds.

    In a way I think this film sort of has that vibe going for it, without any promises.

    So far, it seems to be the least speculated about Star Wars film so far.

    Perhaps, in some strange way, that might, for once, actually be a good thing. At the very least it could give some of us Star Wars theorists a much-needed break after TLJ =)

    I'm just hoping this film will prove surprisingly enjoyable, especially when taking into consideration the considerable production setbacks it suffered.

    I'm not expecting it to have TFA or TLJ-level anticipation and box office performance, but it will probably do well and may go on, if the Force wills it, to be a real source of joy and insight into Han, Lando, Chewie, the Falcon, and who knows what else.

    I know I'll be rooting for it and getting my tickets soon as a I can =)

    (han)(chewbacca)(falcon)(lando)
     
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    What in the world are you talking about? Brackett is certainly a Sci-Fi legend and deserves immense respect for her contributions to the genre, but the draft she submitted to Lucas is absolutely atrocious.
     
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    I don't think that you can really worry about this film until you see the first trailer. Only then will you really get an idea of the tone and style for the film and get a chance to see how the actors work in the roles that they have. We've had discussions in other threads about when a trailer would drop and now that TLJ has come out without a trailer for Solo they've shown a little of their hand in regard to the marketing strategy. For whatever reason they didn't feel like putting a trailer in front of TLJ was really beneficial so now it becomes a game of where and when do they release it. My theory from the other trailer threads is that it's going to show up during the National College football championship game due to it being on ESPN and a pattern that Disney has of using major sports events to drop movie trailers.

    I personally am just excited to see what it's going to look like. After seeing all the drama that happened with Rogue One and how the movie still turned out to be pretty good I have confidence that it will at least be watchable. While Rogue One was nowhere near the best Star Wars movie it wasn't terrible, I found the first half to be a tad slow but the second half was really good. The thing about the stand-alone movies is that they need to break out of doing movies that are meant to fill in backstory for certain characters and events and move into telling stories that expand and enrich the universe. I believe that's the key to making them work long term, give the audience new characters along with legacy characters in new exciting adventures and people will keep coming back for more.
     
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    Wonder when the trailers out soon i heard
     
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    I'll go watch it (not at a midnight screening) and not expect too much from it.
     
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    I never feel right being worried. It's not my story to tell and I selfishly feel that so long as I dig it, then it doesn't matter what others think. Of course, I want everyone to enjoy it, but as with TFA and TLJ we see that such a scenario would be impossible. I don't put this film on the same level as the saga films. To me, this is a stop-gap filler story with a great character.

    It doesn't need to be Ben Hur, it just needs to be fun.
     
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    The re-casted Han Solo doesn't look half as bad as everyone is making it out to be and is believable. I took this image from another post.

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    I don't know what to expect. My only real doubt is in Alden Ehrenreich because I don't think he looks like Harrison Ford. He's near the same age Harrison was when he did A New Hope and if he's supposed to be around the same age as the character was at the time, he should look a lot more like Harrison Ford. I still think they should've gotten Anthony Ingruber, who played a young version of Harrison's character in Age of Adaline and looks A LOT more like him.

    I feel better knowing Harrison met with Alden while the film was being created, but I'm still doubtful about how he'll be portrayed because the fact of the matter is that Harrison Ford is Han Solo. I don't see how anyone else could take on the role and do it the justice that he did.

    Story-wise, I'm optimistic. Ron Howard is an incredible director and I've had several people who know little about Star Wars or movies tell me that it's in great hands if Ron Howard is directing it. I'm not too concerned about the film itself so much as I am how it changes our views of certain characters (particularly Han). I really think Donald Glover will be great as Lando, but I'm still not sold on Alden. I hope I'm wrong, though!
     
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    I feel like the film is in good hands with Ron Howard, but will it truly be his vision or will he be too rushed to put a great product on the screen. Hope I’m wrong, but I don’t have a good feeling about this.
     
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    Ford was 33, playing 29 at the time of filming ANH. Now AE was 28 at the time filming Solo. I still don't know what year Solo takes place.
     
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