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SPECULATION Hype - Episode VIII vs Episode 3.5 - Guilty.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MarsPhoenix, May 29, 2016.

  1. MarsPhoenix

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    I feel guilty.
    I don't feel good about myself.

    EVERYTHING we've seen so far from ROGUE ONE looks fantastic. The Teaser trailer was filled with exciting visual. The premise reads great. It truly looks and feels like a REAL prequel to A New Hope... but...

    Am I the only one here being under-Hyped by this movie because of Episode VIII?

    I am hyped and can't wait for Episode 8, I read every thread from this board... though, I skip most of the news, rumors, spoilers, discussions on ROGUE ONE.

    I sort of feel bad about how I feel about these two movies. Spoiling myself to death for 8 and not caring about the true next Star Wars movie, that is released 7 months from now.

    Why am I feeling like that?
    What is going on?

    Am I the only one?

    My conclusion is that I sort of fell in love with characters from Episode 7, I care about them and I can't wait to see where all of this is going.

    I know that Rogue One will introduce tons of new characters that will probably all die before Episode IV's scroll rolls, so we won't be left waiting for closure.

    Or maybe elements will be put in this movie that have impact on what's coming next in Episode VIII or standalone films.

    If Rogue One is a major success, being the first "Non-serial" Star Wars movie, could this have a negative impact on how people will feel leaving Episode 8, not being a self contained movie, 2nd part of a trilogy?

    For the moment... I feel guilty that I have no expectation for ROGUE ONE and all my money on Episode VIII.
    Am I the only one?
     
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    Naw, that's so sweet. You're obviously monogamoviest at heart. Don't feel bad, I'm sure Ep. VIII won't mind if you see other SW movies. Yeah sure, you have a history there, but I'm sure the relationship is strong enough to handle it.

    Maybe you're just scared of getting hurt. Which is fair enough. It's scary bonding with characters that could likely all be dead by the end of the movie. It's easier to hope that our most beloved characters and the story from the ST will go on. That hope is a lot more tenuous with the Rogue One, as the future has already been written to a great degree.

    I went through a similiar stage myself. Then I saw all those lovely storm troopers and X-wings and that Rebel base. Plus that Krennic guy in that 'I own the floor' cape. Oh, and that fledgling DS with those Star Destroyers. Don't tell me that didn't get you going. And I thought, we could possibly have something special here. And just because a love or life or story isn't ment to go on, doesn't mean we shouldn't embrace the joy while we can. Joy is so fleeting. So I gave myself permission to get excited and look forward to the movie. Even if the film falls short of expectations, that won't negate the joy I feel now getting involved with the hype.

    There might be small, insignificant elements that could influence viewing pleasure of Ep. VIII, but I doubt there will be any major plot developments, and they will probably only be significant to the more hard core fans. If regular people think that Rogue One is required viewing for the ST, it might put people off seeing the ST if they didn't get round to seeing RO. Pretty sure TPTB don't want to do that, and it would defeat the purpose of a stand alone film.

    If RO is a success, I think this will only give the generic public confidence that SW movies are great, and would encourage theem to see TFA and then Ep. VIII. Maybe visa versa too, if it's not so good. But that won't happen (crosses fingers).

    I'm hoping the only negative emotion I feel upon exiting Ep. VIII is "How am I going to wait for the next one!"

    But anyway, don't feel bad. I'm sure your heart and mind is big enough to cope with getting excited for both movies. Give up the guilt, and get on board the hype train. It's going to be fun :)
     
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    I don't think its wrong necessarily. In the end, unlike every other Star Wars movie until now, Rogue One will be just a movie. A single movie, without an ongoing saga. And it may be great, and exciting, and go on perpetual rotation in my house. But it won't leave me wanting more or speculating about where the story goes after its done. So, my thoughts on it are limited. I'm basically waiting to see if its good. If it is, I'll watch it...a lot. If its not, no big loss.

    My mind stays focused on Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo and their story going forward. That's where my speculation and hopes lie. The stand-alones are just a nice diversion. And I don't think that's a bad hing, nor should anyone feel guilty about it. Having non-essential Star Wars movies is going to be a great thing in the long run. It offers more variety and greater chance to take risks with the films. IT will just never consume our imaginations as much as the main saga does.
     
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    I think...that as long as people understand that VIII is a numbered movie and R1 is NOT, then it should be fine.
     
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    i'm a "monogamoviest" too i think (you win the internet for that term, @Empire Jo!)

    i'll probably get more excited about Rogue One closer to release, but for the moment i don't feel any stakes in it (part and parcel of it being a "prequel"). i hope Jyn turns out better than she looks in the previews (at the moment i ain't feeling it with her), though visually the thing is looking great! super excited about the AT-ATs.

    but yeah, it's hard to bother about it when we've already been hooked in by TFA and Rogue One isn't going to feed that storyline for us even if it is a side serving of the same universe.
     
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    I think that the reason we wouldn't feel the stakes in it for now is because we already know what happens at the end after the credits roll and salsa the characters are still obscure to us which isn't a strategy that Disney should be taking on their first spinoff from Lucasfilm.
     
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    The episodes are the main event. The spin off movies are sideshow attractions. That's how I see them. Compare the response to the first Force Awakens teaser to the one for Rogue One. Ep. 7 got about 2x as many views as R1. The episodes are the main course, the spin-offs are the appetizer that you eat waiting for the next episodic meal. The big difference - a story with characters that everyone is already invested in versus an interesting side story that explains how something happened right before a movie you already saw and know how it turned out. It's more interesting to go forward into unknown territory than go back and find out how something happened that you already know happened.
     
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    Visually, Rogue One did not interest me until I saw the recent leaked artwork of the cool triangular-winged tie-fighters. Those look much more futuristic and sleek than ST-era ships, and I don't understand why filmmakers chose this path. Shouldn't Rogue One be visually-identical to ANH?

    The characters also do not have the same appeal as the ones from the previous seven-film saga. While I love Jyn, the Enforcer Droid, and Director Krennic, the others look and "feel" similar. Rugged, angry, long hair that needs to be washed, junky equipment, etc.
     
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    It catches my imagination.... I will be in line, OF COURSE.... but... I feel detached from this movie, and I see no reason for me to feel like this. It looks great... chances are, this will be one of the best Star Wars movie ever made.... still.... I feel detached, and I am troubled by this.... and I blame Episode 8 for that :)
     
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    Haha i was thinking the same thing.

    Semi- related: i think a big part of why I'm not nearly as hyped for rogue one is because i know less about our than i did ep7 at this point
     
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    I kinda feel the same:even thought Rogue One's gonna be out in December,I don't feel that interested like last year waiting for TFA.I read every rumor last year,ever bit of info I would get my hands on kast year and know it's far from even a portion of what I read before TFA. The good thing thought,I'll be able to watch Rogue One with less knowledge,wich will make watching it much more like people felt back in the times of the OT.
     
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    You're not the only one. It is just there is less at stake too because we know what happens next, because of A New Hope. I'll watch the movie, on opening day, without a doubt. Maybe after Celebration the hype will begin
     
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    In my case, I NEVER visit the Rogue One messageboard. It'll be the FIRST Star Wars movie, I'll just go in the theater with absolutely no idea of what I am going to watch.
     
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    No. You are not the only one. We are rebels and rogues.

    I for some reason haven't cared as much about Rogue One as much as VIII. I forget about R1 alot.
     
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    I think the big difference between Episode 8 and Rogue Squadron is simple:. Characters.

    Rogue Squadron could be a great movie but it will be tough to match seeing Luke Skywalker again, or Rey vs Ren rematch, etc. Rogue One just won't have those iconic moments.

    That is why I try to view them both in different context. Rogue One is just an appetizer between Episode 7 and 8 that I will probably enjoy, but I won't go crazy over. Episode 8 will get my heart pumping, Luke, Rey, Finn, Poe, Leia, Ren, BB8.....
     
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    To be fair, we kind of know the plot of R1 going into it, so.. speculation just can't run wild like it can with the Ocho.
    But hype is a double edged sword.. tends to bring dissapointment more than joy. Since this is an anthology film.. why not stay under hyped and see what your experience is like? Think of it like a mulligan.
     
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    ...I feel more excited for Rogue One than for Episode VIII.

    How bad it is, doctor? Give it to me straight.
     
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    Meh I kind of see Rouge One as a snack to hold me over until Episode VIII. Im not as excited about VIII right now but thats because its still a while away,
     
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    So, I'm gonna try this, I'm not sure if it's where you're at, but maybe it helps your process: I just watched TFA again and came away with the feeling it didn't cook long enough. All the ingredients are there, characters, elements and what not, but for me, it just doesn't quit gel. Another chef took my favorite recipe and JUST missed the mark. My hope is, that with VIII, the chef gets it right. I have expectations, so inevitably, there's more excitement and more room for disappointment.

    With rogue one, it's a side dish. Related, complementary, but different. Different chef (again), AND all new ingredients. Substitutions I'm not familiar with. I'm hopeful and willing, but I know it's not the main dish, therefore, it's not the focus of the meal.

    Anyways, just my two cents. Hope it helps
     
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    Which is precisely why I'm so excited for it. It's something I'm not familiar with, so I get the thrill of discovery, but even if it's not quite to my tastes, I still have the main course coming.
     
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