RUMOR I broke the recent news on MvS's character. Let's discuss.

Maybe Kylo Ren is a sort of cult-leader type who claims to be the reincarnation of Darth Vader. That way he could go by a new name but claim to be Vader at the same time.

It's possible that most people believe the same thing Obiwan told Luke, that Darth Vader killed Anakin.

 

I love how a good chunk of this was about Mvs but no one cares I do buy the bit about Mvs though. Sounds plausible.
As for Kylo, most of this sounds like the speculation already going on here http://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/who-is-kylo-ren.1135/page-94#post-76797

 

These new rumors about Jakku, MVS’s character and Kylo Ren are interesting and give me faith Ep 7 is trying to push the saga forward with some new scenarios.

I think the ‘Ren is claiming to be Vader’ subplot is interesting but it could backfire. It might just be a lazy excuse to make Ren be like Vader rather than the writers having the confidence or vision to create someone with a fresh identity, their own persona. So I think it’s a risky approach to take but it could work, I suppose. If Ren is impersonating Vader I assume his voice may sound the same or sort of similar. Hmm, that could be counterproductive.

At some point, Kylo Ren will reveal himself to be Kylo Ren, not Vader. I’m also guessing (I could be totally wrong!) Ren will become some new Sith Lord and his name will change? Darth (someone). That would be consistent with previous SW history. Taking another wild guess, perhaps Ren becomes a Sith Lord in Ep 8?

 

He suspects which is different

 

I wasn't sure if this was sarcasm or not....are you saying that he's NOT walking around with a mask and black cape?

 

Thanks for sharing. I'm unsure of how I feel about him imitating Vader, but it would not be the worst storyline.

There already was a rumor of a "fake Vader", though I think that revolved around the imposter and Ren being two different characters. Unifying the imposter and Ren into the same character does make more sense. And it's also worth it to note that most people who would have known Vader well enough to recognize his distinct mannerisms and such (and therefore be able to spot something "off" with him) probably would have perished with the defeat at Endor.

 

Give me some fake Vader sounds like fun, I would like to see a Spin off movie called Darth Vader, with him as the lead.
(something in the style of the book Darth Vader from James Luceno)
Story takes place between III and IV, I know we have Rebels, but I want a real life movie about Vader.
It would be fun to watch see him going berserk on a jedi hunting trip in a galaxy far away.
The Body is replaceable and James Earl Jones sounds still fresh enough, I would say lets bring it, before it's to late.
About MVS, if he is a old wise man in a village and get slaughtered in the first act or minutes, it feels wrong, he could have been better used.

Don't get me wrong, but I hope that the name of the main villain who is pulling the strings behind the scenes is not Uber.
In german it's pronounced Über and it means "over/about or above" I think this is a weird name, think about it, Darth Uber, the guy who stands above all Sith.
The guy who has the most power and is on top of the command chain. (This role could be good but not the name)
Not very creative in my opinion, but I like the name Kylo Ren, without the Darth title, maybe nobody is called Darth in the ST.

Edit: If Uber is not only his code name and will end up as his movie name, I suppose I can live with it.

 

Maybe we are confusing the ideas of "being" Vader with trying to emulate Vader. He may be trying to fill the Vader role in the First Order. A Sith wannabe without the Jedi training and a strong desire to be like Darth Vader.

 

I'm pretty certain Uber is not going to be his name, it's just a codename. I believe he is called Uber because he is over/above all the other villains.

 

Uber is a code name, I believe.

 

I agree. Kylo may be the new Vader in terms of his role in The First Order but I don't think he calls himself Vader. I think it's possible he creates the illusion that he has in some way absorbed the spirit of Vader. He is sort of advertised as the second more powerful coming of the one we knew as Vader. Kind of like the term Darth has become like Pharaoh.

Another reason I doubt he is calling himself Vader is based on the age of who could be playing Kylo and how Uber is rumored to be very old. Vader would have been MIA for at least 10 years or so if Kylo is the one to assume the Vader name.

The plot of Aftermath does hint that Vader and Palpatine are Rumored to be dead. I personally think the whole "The First Order" name change is a façade to make the Empire sound "New and Improved" because of the public questioning what is going on with it. In the same respect like I said before I think Kylo will actually be MORE feared if he calls himself "Darth _____" the new enforcer of the The Force Order and more powerful that Vader ever was. Vader being rumored dead does make him seem weak to an extent after all.

Aftermath plot:

The second Death Star has been destroyed. Rumors are flying that the Emperor and his enforcer, Darth Vader, are dead. A new government is forming to replace the Empire. But the galaxy is a big place, and the fallout of this cataclysm will affect different worlds in different ways. Does everyone accept the fall of Imperial rule? Has everyone even heard the life-altering news? What rushes in to fill the vacuum the Empire has left? And who will try to stop them? Those are some of the themes we’ll be exploring in Aftermath, and as a lifelong Star Wars fan, just writing those words gives me chills. I can’t wait for our first canon glimpse into the state of the galaxy after the Battle of Endor.

 

I am a Christian and you aren't off base. Funnily enough, there are some who speculate that the antichrist figure spoken of in the books of Revelation and Daniel may have already come in the form of Nero. Someone pointed out that if you reverse Kylo Ren you have Ner Olyk or Nero Like and as we know he is involved in a slaughter and burning of a village.

Now whether I like the filmmakers making parallels with the bible or not is another story but they've definitely implemented some elements IMO.

 

I don't know why we'd expect a big revelation anyway. Adam Driver is known to fans of Girls and as a really good actor in some indie movies. But it's not like Bradley Cooper was cast as the main villain.

 

At least since I was old enough to think deeper on the matter, I've always thought the line from Star Wars: "You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion." was indicating he knew full well who Darth Vader once was. Even if only a select few knew the truth, Tarkin was one of those few who did. At least that makes sense to me.