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I have come to terms with this movie, have you?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Lord Skywalker, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. lighteye

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    My own two cents. I think many might have gone to the movie with (almost) unrealistic expectations. I personally thought it was great: Finn and Rey and Poe were fantastic,
    ]even Han's death made sense in sealing Kylo's fate.
    My only hope was to see more Luke, but I can wait until next year to see it. Definitely. This was the best Star Wars movie since RotJ.
     
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    They are brave and may of them die helping the Rebels.
    Always sad when I hear that music and mama Ewok dies :(
     
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    Wow. Visually, that was just a stunning film. It certainly left a lot of questions unanswered, but it should have left them unanswered. Part of what made the OT great was that you were dropped right in the middle of the universe without having everything explained to you. The film was certainly not perfect and they could have done things differently (to appease a lot of old nostalgic fans - I'm one of them), but I honestly think the character development, like the tragedy of Kylo Ren, and the gravity of the overall story, will long term be better for the controversial choices
    Han's death and Luke cameo

    I am honestly overwhelmed right now having just come home from the theater, but the only disappointment I have is in myself for not having been able to resist spoilers in advance. Now that I have seen it, I think I would have been totally blown away if I didn't have any preconceptions of the film going into it.

    This movie did well what it was supposed to do by by setting the table and passing the torch for future films. Love all the new characters and can't wait to see where this journey takes them. Well done.
     
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    Editorial note: your closing spoiler tag is on the right ...R/, needs to be on the left./S...
    AH! I see you caught it!
     
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    I always seem to screw it up the first time... sorry!
     
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    No harm done :)

    Besides, I'm a little conflicted right now about even noticing that typo....
    I mean, Should I even be clicking spoilers, without having seen the movie yet? :eek:
     
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    I've seen it three times but I'm finding myself smiling at a lot of the scenes and finding nuances in others. It's not a amazing movie but it is a great one and deserves repeated viewings. It's difficult to remember that this is part 1 in a trilogy. The next two films will explain and expand on the mythology a lot more.
     
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    I'm conflicted. Because on one hand it did a lot of things really well and I liked it a lot. On the other hands it has some major issues.

    First, the good. The characters are great, likable and interesting enough to keep you engaged and rooting for them. The acting was excellent - along with the dialogue it was just cheesy enough to feel like Star Wars. The pacing is tight and spot-on. The jokes are genuinely funny and don't overshadow the drama. The visuals are satisfying and the action scenes are entertaining.

    The fatal flaw is when the third act starts, and the film no longer parallels A New Hope but simply copies it. I hardly remember the final battle because it wasn't very distinctive or memorable. There are two big reveals, and the first is hardly a reveal at all, it's essentially just a plot point, which would be fine if it wasn't so hamfisted. The second big shocker feels like it was only in the movie to be a big shocker, and there's no real emotional impact.

    Some characters, at least one in particular, were very much underused and I hope they play a much bigger role in the future.

    Most lacking is a sense of scale. It's almost claustrophobic - it's a little too low-key and understated for Star Wars. I didn't get much of a "mythopoeic" vibe. Likely, they tried too hard to avoid similarities with the prequels and ended up overdoing it.

    Overall it feels very much manufactured, designed to please as many fans as possible. It doesn't take risks, it doesn't break new ground. There are some interesting concepts introduced, and it's certainly a fun ride for the first two acts (and probably the third as well if you aren't as jaded). I have trouble fully appreciating the pros because of how artificial the movie as a whole is, but it does leave me eager for Episode VIII.

    It wasn't as fanservicey as I worried either.

    I'm gonna see it again, in 3D this time since I heard it looks great.
     
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    I will say I am surprised. I am an old school star wars fan. I saw A new Hope with my father and brother when I was 5 years old. Han Solo is my favorite character by far. That being said. This is easily the second best star wars film to me. I would put it close to ESB. We may have an SPOILER ALERT ( I can't figure out how to put the box on here)

    seen the end of Solo, but we have not seen the end of his impact. Solo was not a mentor. Maz is the mentor, but his death serves the same purpose as Obi wans and qui gons. Kylo needed the death to prove his worth to Snoke, but the death with come back as will his conflict. I can absolutely see Hayden making an appearance to him later on. I don't know if they will go there.

    I like that they didn't answer to many question. I liked that all the major villians lived. I liked Lukes appearance. it was great for the film. I give it 9/10
     
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    Yeah I massively agree. I thought it was great and delivered in exactly what I wanted. If I hadn't of come on here and read the spoilers then I think I might have thought it was even better than that.

    I even thought not having Luke in it till the end made so much sense.
     
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    Rian Johnson is a better writer as well. Looper was great, not an easy movie to write. JJ himself even said how brilliant Rian's script is and he came up with ideas they (JJ and Kasdan) never could have dreamed of. This is why I'm even more excited for Episode VIII
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    The only gripe I had wasn't the fact Luke was only in it at the end and his look,
    but more the look on his face was kind of upsetting to me, just a little to vulnerable in my opinion; It's not a big deal just something that kind of bugged me; I guess he's seen some blast.
     
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