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HUMOR I want YOUR Star Wars hot takes

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by RoyleRancor, Apr 9, 2019.

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    Wow! There are so many ways you can look at this lol
     
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    I've watched every Vader scene with each of the language options available. In every language outside of English, the Sith always sound more ominous. Vader's reconstruction scene after the mask, is my bench mark.... even if you are a novice, I'd bet watching that scene in French will deepen your experience the same way the Spanish dub with Federico Romano kills it for me. Here's every voice: https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/characters/Star-Wars/Darth-Vader/

    Also, you don't need to understand a lick about any of the other languages listed on the disk when the subtitles are on.

    FWIW - I'm snacking on a bag youngling carrots right now.
     
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    I take that as a compliment! ;)

    The PT has the most room for creative and inventive stories. It isn't limited by the aesthetics or Force-conservative constraints of the OT. The things that can be done there are overall cooler to me as well. You want an army of Jedi? The PT (or any time before that) can have it. You want cool robes, flashy Jedi stuff, or power politics? The PT (or any time before that) is the place to go.

    But I see the other ways that I think you're inferring. The PT content is seen as divisive, different, and frankly not as good. I don't fully agree, but your points are valid and frankly well reasoned. But that's also why Snyder would work wonders in that setting. Snyder's a divisive director, so giving him a divisive setting that's frankly pretty low-stakes would work wonders for him. (And yes I consider Darth Plagueis and/or Bane low-stakes overall.) He could do what he wants and no one would have to feel like it's "ruining their Star Wars" or mandatory. Overall, the PT is a place where he can build a little playground and do cool things without a majority of people feeling like the have to watch his stuff.
     
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    I find your lack of stakes, amusing.
     
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    If Snyder had directed TROS there would be a twenty minute epilogue featuring Unkar Plutt which teased two more episodes that aren't going to be made.
     
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    Laughs in Revenge of the Sith.
     
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    If Snyder had directed TROS I wouldn’t watch it since who watched a 4 hour movie
     
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    The length of a story (or joke) has nothing to do with how well it is told. Some things take mere seconds. Others hours. If a person is interested in either, they'll find the time.
    Snyder would have probably released a 2 hr 45 min cut for theaters and then an extended cut for home release, like he's done with most of his movies. Besides,
    Gone With the Wind & The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - two of the most well-regarded films in cinema - are both minutes under four hours. And yes, I've seen both.*

    Besides, at least a four hour cut of TROS by Snyder would have had time to explore the characters, themes, and background of the story instead of giving us flimsy (or rather, flimsier) excuses as to why things needed to work out the way they did. That doesn't mean he would have spent that time well, mind you (again, the length of a story has nothing to do with how well it is told), but at least it would have been spent...

    *Admittedly I wasn't paying much attention to TWTW and was probably too immature to handle it at the time, so it's time for a re-watch. I'm saving it for when I next see my grandfather since it's his favorite movie.
     
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    Oh I am sure the Snyder cut is good. But I am not watching a 4 hour long movie. If I have to pause a movie and take a break it ain’t worth watching.
     
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    IMHO, a Snyder SW sounds pretty terrible. At least, it wouldn't be a film for me (but I would sure watch it).

    I saw the Snyder Cut of Justice League a few days ago and it was... while not terrible, definitely a big meh. (And four hours worth of meh, nonetheless). Ponderous, bloated, and self-important wouldn't fit Star Wars well, I think. But then again, perhaps it would be the most amazingliest thing evvah for someone else, so who am I to judge?
     
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    I liked BvS and man of steel well enough. I am sure Snyder could make a good SW movie so long as it doesn’t go to dark. Like no darker than BVS
     
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    Ha! It's definitely not for everyone. But few things ever are. I had a friend who I thought would despise the movie for all the reasons you stated. He despises Endgame for some of those exact same reasons. And he liked Snyder's JL. Admittedly, for the action and nothing else, but it was still an initially positive response.

    Yeah that's why I wouldn't want it to be a film. I'd rather have it as a limited-run series or the like. Something where the story has room to breathe but also has a definite ending.

    I...have issues with this philosophy, but to each their own.

    Agreed.
     
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    Again, I don't think Snyder is the man for this as he seems to have very little to say; his films seem to be little more than empty action and breathing *shrug* Oh well, to each their own.
     
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    Is it okay if we pick this back up later this weekend, if possible? I'm a little strapped for time on a response that I want to craft and need to make sure that my points aren't assumed on my part. The discussion around the response may fit a different thread a little better, although it may be a hot take, so who knows!

    What I WON'T try to do during the response: convince you to like this movie; convince you that Snyder is a good fit for Star Wars; convince you that all of his movies are somehow super deep and have so much to say.

    What I WILL try to do during the response: refute aspects of your point, especially in relation to the Justice League movie.

    (What it'll probably sound like I'm doing: playing with "what-aboutisms" in terms of the relationship between Snyder and the superhero genre as a whole, and Star Wars.)
     
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    Nah, no need. I'm not particularly invested in this and if people want a Snyder SW I shan't complain any more about it. This discussion has probably been churning on for too long already and I don't have anything but circular arguments to offer from here on in, I think. No bigy :)
     
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    Fair enough! :D
     
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    Oh yea it’s controversial but this thread is for hot Takes. I can sit through God Father but that’s about it. It’s probably my ADHD
     
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    I tend to prefer longer films as long as the content is there.

    Rise feels like it should have been 4-5 hours to me or been a two parter.
    My only fear instead of more fleshed out, there would be more stupid and even more fan service.
     
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    ...I may or may not have spent the past hour trying to figure out what a Snyder-directed Episode 9 would look like...it's been interesting to say the least.
    Although if I'm being honest, I'd prefer a Guillermo del Toro-directed EP IX than a Snyder one. But if they could work together...mmm....
     
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    Probably a mild take, but I am not that excited for The Book of Boba Fett. The Mandalorian Season Two did wonders for his character, but I’m still not really that interested in a Boba-led story. Generally, I’m not that big of a fan of stories revolving around the scum and villainy of the galaxy, so it’s really not a story for me. I’ll probably enjoy it nonetheless.

    Come to think of it, I’m not really that excited for any of the Star Wars media coming out this year and I’m 100% okay with that. Being so entrenched in Star Wars has really ended up taking a toll on my love for it ironically, so I’m really happy to take the time this year and consume other content outside of Star Wars. And maybe this is a hot take in of itself, but I think a lot of Star Wars fans need to consider doing the same.
     
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