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If Anakin had survived ROTJ, what do you think his fate would have been?

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by Lord Skywalker, Aug 13, 2017.

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What do you think would have happened to Anakin?

  1. Charged and convicted of multiple crimes, spend rest of his life in jail or executed

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  2. Charged and convicted of multiple crimes, but eventually released and goes into exile

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  3. Charged and convicted of multiple crimes, but eventually released and helps Luke rebuild Jedi Order

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  4. Get's pardoned for destroying the Emperor, goes into exile

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  5. Get's pardoned for destroying the Emperor, helps Luke rebuild Jedi Order

    7 vote(s)
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  6. Other

    11 vote(s)
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  1. Lord Skywalker

    Lord Skywalker Rebel Official

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    Anakin was still relatively a young man in Return of the Jedi at the age of 46. I presume if he survived and went with Luke back to Endor, the New Republic would probably charge him with crimes against the Republic, genocide, murder, etc., and probably has to spend the rest of his life in jail.
     
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    He would have helped build the jedi order, to make amends for destroying it.
     
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    He would have lived a sad life trying to atone for his sins. While Luke may have forgiven his father, the rest of the galaxy wouldn't have seen eye to eye with Luke so Anakin would have had to create a new identity for himself and live the rest of his life in secret atoning for his sins or it would be exactly like Lord Skywalker said that if he were to be found out, the beings of the galaxy would probably charge him with crimes against the galaxy, the Republic, genocide, murder, slavery etc. and probably had him spend the rest of his life in jail or maybe even executed him.
     
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    I voted exile, he committed s many crimes in the galaxy he would've nothing left to contribute to Luke's order. Luke would've been under pressure to exile for the sake of the Skywalker name. Luke didn't need that pressure to choose between duty & family.
     
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    I think he should be forced (sorry for the pun) to go back and live on Tatooine as an punishment?
     
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    Unknown Regions or Wild Space
     
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    Good question!

    I think that Luke, sensing the good in Vader, would help his father escape the Death Star, with the promise that he'd go into exile on an uninhabited planet. In fact, I think Luke might suggest Dagobah, to try to attune his connection back to the light side of the Force.
     
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    So, the New Republic would have been born upon a lie, and the protection of a high mass criminal, just due to one former-farmer-boy who wanted his father to be redeemed?
    So the Republic would have spared the one who had previously helped to destroy it?
    So one only Luke Skywalker would have saved this man, against billions and billions of living forms across the Galaxy who would have been deprived of justice?
    Anakin Skywalker was perhaps a good man, but Vader was definitely a coward and a slayer, during more than 20 years. That's enough to be judged and deserve no forgiveness. :)
     
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    Anakin committed crimes that would warrant him the capital punishment. But at the same time, only a fool (or a council composed of fools) would convict him to death or exile. Anakin/Vader is one of the most gifted force users is history, and his abilities could be used constructively. Having him executed would be throwing the baby with the bathwater.
     
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    This is as close to sorry that you'll get from him (vader)
     
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    Get a new outfit, call himself “Annie”, and jump back into the pod-racing scene.
     
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    I wouldn't see this as the birth of the Republic.

    Unless Luke does view this as justice. Execution or imprisonment may not be appropriate in his mind, either.

    Sure, but who was the man when the mask was removed? Vader, or Anakin?
    I think it's possible that the latter would deserve forgiveness.
     
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    He would be a broken man in both body and spirit. Having failed at everything in his life (Fatherhood, the Empire, just being a general good person), He would have been wracked with an unbearable amount of guilt. For most of us, that would cause a major downward spiral, leading some to drugs and alcohol which we all know exists in the Star Wars universe. Just imagine one of the most powerful force users in history as a heroin addict. His mind was already twisted and damaged by Palps manipulations. I've always felt he was always on the verge of kind of losing his cool in a raging fit of violence.

    All this together is also what made Vader the most iconic villain in the history of story telling. There are actually people in this world that have never heard of Satan....but they damn sure know who Vader is.
     
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    Um, he DID survive ROTJ, he has a Force Ghost, which is his living force. Once you have a Force ghost, you are immortal for as long as there are others around living in the universe to generate the Force energy field, which surrounds us, combines us....

    This raises the possibility of an Anakin Force Ghost reappearing in a future film if needed or desired. However, as Anakin is a living Force Ghost, then Darth Vader has been extinguished and can never return. Unless someone else takes on the pseudonym or identity of "Darth Vader".
     
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    I drop here something that comes to me.

    Some days ago, I read somewhere in the Cantina, someone who said something like "Vader is dead by the end of ROTJ because Palp is dead", said differently, "Palpatine was the one who allowed Vader to still live".

    According to this point of view, would Vader have been still twisted by Palp once Palp is dead?
    I mean: would have he recovered a part of himself (the good in him) once his mentor and master (in the way: the master of a slave) is dead? you know, it would be like in some child tales: the victim of a spell sees his fate fly away when the sorcerer who threw it is dead.
    In other terms: Vader was the slave of Sidious ; would he have been remained a slave once the Palp is dead.
     
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    He would have been convicted of an absurd amount of war crimes and as punishment, spent his continued existence in an incubator without armor, locked away in a dark cell on a remote world for increased security. Regardless of his final act, which no one would believe occurred, no one could trust a man that murdered without repent thousands by his own hand. He wouldn't be executed because that's not Mon Mothma's way, and her final decision would probably have been persuaded by Leia to forgo execution.
     
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    I dont know. Thats a great question. If we go by how humans really are, Flawed broken and selfish for the most part, then I think that the Damage to Vader from Palps may be mostly permanent. He may recover somewhat but anything other than total self forgiveness and the ability to live without your conscience weighing you down after murdering millions, destroying thousands of years of history and basically enslaving an entire galaxy under what amounts to a fascist regime of the likes of Stalin and Hitler. Once Luke saved him, I would think that conscience would return and haunt him his entire life. I always felt that though his passing was sad for Luke, he knew this would be the least painful path for his father to take.
     
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    One question, I don't have the answer : did Leia forgive his (biological) father?

    In fact, she's absolutely not in the same mood as his brother, by the end of ROTJ. She's in the exact opposite: Luke was picked from nowhere, where he had no future, was given a knowledge, then a goal, and became a great person. It's the opposite for Leia : she was once a princess, but she lost everything: her homeworld, her youth, her (adoptive) parents, her fellows in the rebellion...

    Actually, in the Rebel Alliance - apart Luke - I don't see one single person who would have wanted to forgive Vader.
     
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