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If Moderators Don't Take Action I Am Going To Start A Quote War

Discussion in 'Random Discussion' started by Merman, May 11, 2017.

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  1. Merman

    Merman Rebelscum

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    To all moderators, I have been very fair here and I don't believe in messing with fellow posters and giving them negative quotes yet I have been patient and I have been observing how you moderators run things here in the Cantina. More than once I have seen fellow posters been bullied here if they don't go with the flow and while some of you say you will take action, nothing seems to change. More than once I have seen that if somebody here likes the prequels or dislikes TFA, the negative quotes fly and nothing is done to stop the attackers but when the victims say they will strike back you rapidly intervene saying that you won't tolerate a quote war. So this is the way you guys take action:
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    Is this really fair? Just take a look at this:
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    NOT EVEN ONE of these people even gave a single comment on why they gave the negative quote. They just randomly passed by and said ''Oh look, Merman dislikes TFA so let's slap a negative quote on his profile and keep walking.'' Is this what the Cantina is really about? We have to be mindless drones that have to go with the flow with what the majority likes cause if not we get all the negatives while you moderators silently stand by and do nothing? Is the Cantina really a place for everyone that loves SW or is this secretly a PT haters club where you can bad mouth the prequels and it's all good but if you say something negative about ST you are free to be bullied and badmouthed while the moderators do nothing to stop it?

    I have been respectful here and I have tried to be friendly but if this goes on then I am going to seek out all of these people and do the very same to them. I will enter their pages and randomly fill them with negative quotes just for the fun of it.
     
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  2. Burter

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    I'm with you 100% Merman as this is very unfair indeed. If moderators are not going to do anything to stop this then they should remove the whole quoting system and keep things fair.
     
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    Don't get whiney .people are allowed to disagree with you. What's tha problem ? I once posted unfavourable stuff at the kylo ren thread and they ripped me apart .thats cantina life .
     
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  4. LilyInTheSkywalker

    LilyInTheSkywalker Rebel Official

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    Stop.

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    I addressed it not once but twice.

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    Edit:

    I get that it's frustrating to see a comment you made shot down. But you need to understand that it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction. If you read the comments that follow, you'll get a better idea of why people thought it ok to dislike your comment. It felt needlessly negative with no proof to back up the pessimism.

    I'd also like to add that people didn't dislike your post so much as the video. I stand by my view on THAT. Pure bloody cancer.

    That being said, I'm sorry that you were hurt. I try not to dislike comment. You're free to dislike any one one of my posts. I shitpost about Kylo Ren a lot so you might find me on one of those threads
     
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  5. Merman

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    This isn't about being whiney as you say, this is about fairness. You see, comments like yours are the ones that bug me. I have to take the trash from others with a smile but if I get bothered by it and make a statement that makes me whiney? If getting bad rattings just for the fun of it doesn't faze you then by all means have a blast but you do know that you loose points here in the Cantina for negatives right?

    And the thing is that the major problem is not getting the negative ratings but getting reprimanded if you do the same. And you saw what I just did? I don't agree with you, I didn't like you calling me whiney, yet I still answered you as an adult in a friendly way without sticking a disagree quote on your profile.
     
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    At first, I was rather dubious about the ability of members to literally "downvote" others if they disagreed. I felt like it would lend itself to abuse. But then, as I spent more time posting I began to feel that the system was more in place to encourage positivity, and I was more prone to put a positive spin on my posts, even if I was disagreeing. As much as I would love to be a jerk sometimes, I will often sit there and pre-edit my post for a long time until it both gets my point across and puts a positive spin on it. Of course for me, it's one of those "challenge accepted" things, where I ask myself: "How can I say this and not piss everyone off?". ;)
     
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    i am sure people didn't agree with you just for the fun of it . And as you can see I didn't pushed a negative button too.and on top of all you have much more positive ratings than negatives ! Everyone gets negatives ratings from time to time .you get a few and start crying and want to take revenge.
     
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  8. Burter

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    Not true. First of all your comment is not adressed at him personally and even if it was the case then who gives you the right to call others posts bull$#*t?

    Second you are lying as your comment was not directed at Merman but to Maximus:
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  9. LilyInTheSkywalker

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    I never said that they were, did I?

    Yikes, guy.

    I only said that I addressed his comment and my disliking it. I gave a reason (maybe not to him personally, this is a public thread), I said very clearly that I disliked the fact that the video was so shifty when it came to editing away Hamill's positive comments and only highlighting the negative ones

    Critical thinking skillzzz.

    Like I said, you're free to call bullshite on my posts too. That's how this board, the internet and the world works.
     
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  10. Burter

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    Well then I guess your so called ''critical thinking skillzzz'' do indeed fall under the bull$#*t when you put it that way. :)
     
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  11. LilyInTheSkywalker

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    There you go. Hey, we mightn't agree on what counts as bullshite but at least we agree on our right to call things bullshite. We part friends.
     
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    It doesn't matter if one of the posts by @LilyInTheSkywalker addressed another person, her point still stands. In it she gave valid reasons for why she carried out said action.

    @Merman Have you noticed the pattern linking all those ratings? Perhaps it's less to do with you, and more to do with the doctored content you're promoting?
     
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  13. Viral Hide

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    Is this thread a threat? :)

    I am temporarily closing it. We will address it shortly.

    Something brief - the Rating System is something very minor for these boards and it's just for fun. No one is making conclusions on the members based on just a few negs. Believe me the system works. You can always clearly see who are the real trolls here. They have hundreds of negs.

    BTW, @JarJar @Burter, no name calling is allowed here. Posts with direct insults will be deleted. As always address the post, not the poster.
     
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  14. Pomojema

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    A friendly reminder regarding ratings:

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    They're just fake internet points that kinda-sorta-not-really make a game out of posting here. Sometimes I get mildly irritated about them too, but at the end of the day they're not anything to get this upset over.

    Just keep swimming.
     
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    We have more than 20 mods (Staff and 1030th members) in the Cantina (all contributors with different availability and personal life) that daily watch over the Cantina, trying to keep the order without unnecessary micro managing and direct intrusions. We have multiple convos discussing the situation in the Cantina and a dedicated secret forum with hundreds of threads about moderating the Cantina. So at least show some respect to them instead of calling them "you mods" and how bad they do their job.

    First of all, let me quote you an excerpt from our rules about what the Rating System really is:

    So yes, I don't see anything unfair here. People are allowed to use the rating system without explaining to others why they left that rating.
    It's good that you provided this screenshot. You just got 4 negative ratings on a single comment from 4 different members. That's absolutely normal and the only thing that they show is that they don't agree with your post. Where's the problem in that?

    You've been a member since August 2016 and you only have 10 negative ratings. Keep in mind that we have more than 7000 members in the Cantina. You should be the last person who should be unhappy with that. I really don't see any misuse of the system here. No one went to some of your old posts and intentionally rated them down.

    And again you're threatening people. Leaving a "disagree" rating is not being unfriendly. Perhaps we should change the name of the rating to "Respectfully Disagree" so that all members will know what it means. No one randomly rated down your post and again you are not "filled" with negative ratings. If you intentionally decide to go on a random negative crusade, you will be the troll and you will fall under the rule I quoted above.

    Again, the rating system is just for fun and it's doing a great job at highlighting some of the problematic members. You can see some of them here:

    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?members/&type=negative_ratings

    What matters here are your posts. If you're a good member and follow the rules you will never have issues with the Rating System. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't share your honest thoughts about everything. They may get rated down, but believe me it will be nothing out of the ordinary. We all have negs and we will continue to receive them. What matters is your ratio good ratings vs. bad ratings. Your positive percentage is 96%. Pretty impressive, huh? :)
     
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    Bloody mods, coming along and disturbing the peace
     
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    if I get only one negative rating i will drop a dislike bomb on each and every member *crymoaningwhining*!
     
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    And the rockers! Bloody 'ell!

    [dorkyproductionjoke]Remind me, which code name represented Kanjiklub and which one represented the Guavian Death Gang?[/dorkyproductionjoke]
     
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    I don't see anything wrong there. You expressed your opinion and the members expressed theirs with colorful internet points... Unless a post (or multiple posts in the same thread) gets troll ratings, mods shouldn't take any action at all imo. This falls well within the realms of freedom of speech. Yes, the Cantina is more of a ST and OT leaning society, you have to deal with it.
    I criticised TFA many times here though, and didn't get any dislikes for it. Why? Because my goal was to raise rather objective criticism and not hate spewing. This is from your comment for intance: "TFA tossed all of that to the garbage just to do it's own thing and give us new characters and Disney's new view of things."
    I'm sorry, but we don't even know yet what happened to Luke, why is he in exile etc. Obviously if you won't going to like TLJ's explanation you'll be more than welcome to criticise it, but speculative hate spewing like this might get you conflicting internet points...

    Besides, to answer that proposition: I'd like to remind you to one of the writers behind TFA, namely Lawrence Kasdan. We can fairly declare that he was the 2nd most important person behind the creation of Luke's character. I wouldn't just dismiss his vision because it's not the one you expected (which is kind of ironic, considering the ever recurring mantra of TFA being a rehash).

    In the last 2 years I've been here (yes, I've been lurking for a half year :) ) the moderation was exceptionally well done. I reported two comments and action was taken immidiately. I like the fact that mods are rather freedom of speech advocates, and don't take action unless it's really necessary. It would be a real shame if this forum would turn into something like the TFN boards, where mods censor out every comment they dislike, making the place impossible to function as a forum.
     
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    Dude, to me you are just a nobody with a Ben Kenobi pic and the name Jar Jar which I have to admit fits you perfectly. You a professional boxer from Hamburg with a boxing coach certification? Then dude
    You moderators talk big and how easy it is to make Merman into the badguy yet the dude STILL keeps messing with him right in your faces and you are so blind that you do nothing.
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