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If you could change just ONE thing...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Darth Chewie, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. Darth Chewie

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    Now that we've all time to digest and reflect on TFA, if you had the ability to change just ONE single thing in the movie, what would it be?

    Would you add a certain scene, remove a scene, change a piece of dialogue, add more exposition on certain plot point, ect.

    For me, I think I would have liked just one line from someone explaining why the Resistance was engaging the FO, and not the Republic. Not everyone reads the visual dictionary or the books. While I get why the FO is pissed at the Republic from Hux's speech, it would have been nice to clarify why there needed to be a rogue faction taking on the FO, when the Republic had it's own military fleet.

    So.... it could have easily been added by Han when at Maz Castle. When Maz states"we must fight them", Han could have stated, "but unfortunately the Republic isn't taking the threat seriously", then we could have cut to Finn "There is no fight against the first order..."

    or

    When Han looks up and sees the destruction of the Hosnian system, and Finn proclaims "it was the Republic. The FO... they've done it!" . Han, still looking up at the sky, could have said "the FO threat should have been taken more seriously."

    Or something along those lines. It would have clarified the political positions, plus added something extra to the event of the Hosnians systems destruction.
     
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    i'm guessing you're not suggesting we can change things like having Han slap Ren's lightsaber into the abyss, grab him, and not let go.

    no? hahaha

    okay then, i guess i would have liked to have the conversation with Snoke about Rey played out in the movie as it was in the book: to clarify that Snoke thinks nothing of the scavenger, and to better set up a clear reason why Ren might eventually revolt against Snoke. it feels too vague in the movie.
     
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    you're certainly right about that because until i just read your post, i had no idea whatsoever what the difference was between the factions. but yeah, so, if i'm reading correctly, the resistance is like a splinter of the republic that started a response to the FO because the republic was like "endlessly debating it" or ignoring it, like the old republic in phantom menace?

    wow that definitely makes things clearer.
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    oh i was going to say, what i would change is the starkiller firing sequence. throw in a quick image on a screen showing the galaxy and the location of hosnian system in relation to the starkiller, and throw in a line like "because of [jargon] everyone in the galaxy will see this"
     
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    I think another minute to show us Kylo on the falcon would have added more depth to Han' s death. (Yes, I agree with Campia)
     
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    Clears throat.*

    If we could just change one thing. We would have learned to sing.

    So long and thanks for all the fish!

    _-----------

    I would have like more captain phasma
     
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    I wouldn't have had her in it at all if I could change one thing but rather have her introduced in VIII .
     
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    Yes, the Resistance is a seperate group taking on the FO with the secret support of the Republic. It seems only the FO is aware of the Republics attempts to conceal their support for the Resistance's fight against the FO, as was heard in Hux's speech. And yes, I think you are correct in that the New Republic simply can not agree on how to handle the FO, or is simply choosing not to out of fear of engulfing the Galaxy in yet another war. Either way, again as Hux says, they are acquiescing to dis-order.

    While all of that is somewhat implied in the opening crawl, and in Hux's speech, just the one line of dialogue I suggested would have made the entire situation that much clearer, without having to go on and on with a big boring exposition. The political situation is not necessarily a main plot point, as we clearly understand that the Republic is now all but wiped out, and we are left with just the Resistance and the First Order, but it would have made the Republics destruction a bit more emotional, as we would have witnessed it's annihilation at the hands of its own ignorance.
     
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    I agree. The deleted Korr Sela/ Leia political scenes were needed imo. Not just it would've added more depth to the destruction of the Hosnian system (and Korr Sela), but would've also provided the backstory we (or at least I) needed about the current political state of the Republic/Resistance/Fo.
    If I could've added one act, it would've been that for sure.
     
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    I would make the movie two minutes longer and end with a hugely rewarding paternity reveal. That's all, really. :)
     
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    dude no kidding. that would definitely put some added depth in the scene, very poignant depth. glad i read this thread that does make the scene richer knowing this now. maybe the will add deleted scene at some point. not sure if it's the writer's fault for lack of clarity, or my fault for not picking up on what was said in the movie to convey the idea.
     
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    For the characters of Finn and Poe to have been merged. I think Finn's character would've been stronger if he had been the guy to blow up the Star Killer base rather than just be lightsaber fodder for Kylo Ren. It would also have made the finale more exciting.

    I'd also not have made Snoke CGI.

    And let's take it easy with the Rey miracle power stuff.

    Ok, that's three things. Deal with it. :p
     
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    ughhh. this. seriously.
     
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    Thread title: If you could change just ONE thing...
    "the script"
     
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    In their defense their reasoning for doing cgi was because he would have been literally impossible to do that severe damage from a physical SFX point although maybe a combination of both practical AND visual effects may have been better .
     
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    My thing is incredibly tiny, but I wanted something that wouldn't upend the entire film.
    I would take out the mini-trench run that Poe makes on Starkiller.
    We get it, it's another Death Star.
     
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    I would have shown more of the Senate, the politics of the galaxy, doesn't have to be the focus of the film, but it's inclusion is a small way to make the galaxy bigger instead of shrinking it. Beyond that, TFA was awesome.

    Each of the seven films are flawed, but I love them all in spite of any minor quibble I might have with any of them. I get it TPTB (JJ, LK, etc.) hate the PT, but their hatred (and that of the rest of the PT detractors) blinds them to all of the tremendous good (and strengths) of the PT. The political aspect was one of those strengths. All of the patently ridiculous bitching from the PT haters paid off big time. I hope we get a bigger glimpse of galactic politics going forward.
     
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    I've often posted on this forum & discussed the fact with others that it seems very odd that JJ & Kasdan/LucasFilm elected not to make or show the "force ghost" Yoda scene. It may have shown Luke but who cares! We(the viewers) are ready know he exists & set up the secret plan with R2D2 (artoo) . Yoda could have gave a "it's time to act." speech or gave Luke details about Snoke or Ben Solo.
    I've heard a Yoda force ghost scene is deleted. Maybe he speaks to Rey in the castle but I recall Disney & LucasFilm saying they filmed a brief scene in the huge cave in SE Asia. I don't see them going to such a remote location & doing a GMA(Good Morning America) story about the exotic place then never showing it.

    In my view, R2 should have restarted, sent a code to Luke Skywalker, then Luke should have rescued Rey & Finn on the forest planet. Luke could have injured but not killed Kylo Ren or he could have fought Snoke then all of them could have left to set up the events of EP 8.
     
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    Remove Starkiller Base. It feels spliced in from another film and feels un-Star Warsy.
     
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    Now that is an interesting perspective, as others consider Starkiller Base to be too much of a rehash from the OT. As for me, I'm 100% on board with @Darth Qaidous... both his statements about the saga and his thing he'd change. I'd add a little - very, very little - bit of politics in to add more context to the First Order and the Resistance. It would have been interesting to see it from the FO's point of view, actually.
     
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    I agree. Just a couple lines. Maybe if they had left in the scene of Leia sending off Korr Sella to convince the Republic about the FO threat and give the Resistance more help. I understand why they cut it though, as they wanted Leia's introduction to be with Han instead.

    And for those that say political talk as no place in a real star wars movie, remember there was talk of the Senate twice in ANH. One were an Officer tells Vader that holding Leia could create sympathy for the Rebellion in the Senate, and again in Tarkin's meeting room when Officers again are complaining about the Senate growing more in favor of the Rebellion as a result of Leia' capture and the destruction of Aldreraan, only to be informed that the Senate had been officially done away with by the Emperor.

    I have a feeling we are going to get a much clearer picture of the relationship between the Republic(whats left of it) and the Resistance in Rian's Ep.8. I am predicting that Leia will now be, more then ever, at odds with the Republic and a few scenes explaining their secret "partnership" will be discussed. Heck, it may even get a line in the opening crawl, which if done right would suite me just fine.
     
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