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If you haven't seen Solo yet. Why?

Discussion in 'Solo' started by BobRoss, Jun 4, 2018.

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What are the reasons why you haven't seen Solo yet

  1. Two Star Wars movies in six months is too many

    3 vote(s)
    11.5%
  2. I don't want to watch a SOLO movie that doesn't star Harrison Ford in the titular role

    4 vote(s)
    15.4%
  3. I didn't see the movie because I had better things to during the memorial day weekend

    4 vote(s)
    15.4%
  4. I feel sort of tired of the Star Wars franchise in general

    4 vote(s)
    15.4%
  5. Solo as a character isn't interesting enough to warrant an entire movie dedicated to him

    3 vote(s)
    11.5%
  6. I'd rather watch something else in cinema like Deadpool 2, Infinity War or Jurassic World

    5 vote(s)
    19.2%
  7. I was unhappy with "The Last Jedi" so I'm boycotting SOLO to send a message

    15 vote(s)
    57.7%
  8. I feel like the movie is trying to push political agendas that I do not agree with

    3 vote(s)
    11.5%
  9. A movie with such a troubled production history can't be worth a trip to the cinema

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  10. I haven't had time to see it yet

    10 vote(s)
    38.5%
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  1. BobRoss

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    I'm interested what the main reasons for the disappointing BO of "SOLO: A Star Wars Story" are. If there's anyone in this forum who hasn't seen the movie yet please let me know what the main reason(s) are why you didn't buy a ticket.
     
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    It might be tough to get a good sample here since we're all big fans. I work with a couple of Star Wars fans who like TLJ, but still haven't seen Solo. They just haven't made time to watch the film.
     
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    OTHER: I live in one of the regions where the movie hasn't come out yet. Doesn't arrive until June 29.
     
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    Yeah, an option "I haven't had time to see it yet" would a good addition to the poll.
     
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    I'm trying to link this thread on multiple other movie websites. If you want to help me you can do so as well. I really tired of speculating and would love to have some answers why Solo (a really good movie imo) does so poorly at the box office.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 4, 2018, Original Post Date: Jun 4, 2018 ---
    Thanks, I added it to the list of possible answers
     
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    You don't have to speculate.
    There was very little marketing for this film, and instead TLJ's still being marketed at brick and mortar stores.

    Go try and find marketing around your city/town for it.
    I'm pretty sure you'll still see TLJ, but have a hard time finding Solo.
    McDonald's, Burger King...Subway? Anyone?

    Oh...a cup and plate brand. Cute.

    Cheers,
    Jayson
     
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    Yup, the boring basics. Of course other factors are at play this is the true lead of the story.

    There wasn't even heavy buzz on fan sites, it was like 85% plus Last Jedi Rox/Suxs/Meh till the movie dropped.

    Add in a significant portion of the rest being why is Solo being made/Solo is a production of turmoil and the buzz is a couple trailers within three months of release, poster fiasco, and a TV barnstorm that pretended the movie had been marketed for the last year instead of giving Howard a week off out of post before the blitz and you might get this sort of outcome.
    Especially when you had some swimming upstream to do to get fans to buy in for like 6,000 different reasons while also needing to foster a sense of urgency, build anticipation, and create high awareness in general audiences.

     
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    I don't do boycotts but I choose that option because my SW RPG buddies had no interest in seeing the film and were boycotting it. So, I didn't go with them and my family was generally disinterested because they thought it would be bad. If there was more time and advertising a few of them may have come around. Personally, I thought TLJ was ok, but I can understand why they were mad. (They're really into the EU).


    I'll probably see Solo soonish because I've heard it was good. At the time I thought it'd be awful so I was more interested in seeing Infinity War. Just gotta convince my better half first..
     
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    Haven't made the time to see it yet, but I am excited about the film. My favorite aspect of the Star Wars universe has always been the force and force users. I loved Han, but Luke was my favorite character. That said, non force using characters are an equally valuable part of the universe and deserve their own films/stories. Rogue One was great and I expect I will love Solo as well. For my part, assuming they maintain the high quality of films, Lucasfilm could make two Star Wars films a year and I would happily see each one.
     
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    Multiple reasons for me, mostly lost some SW mojo after TLJ (not so much a boycott but an excuse), but equally just more interested in other movies and having other things to do. I wasn't big on the Solo idea to begin with, but I did find the previews at IW compelling and did re-evaluate if I wanted to check it out. Unfortunately, it just doesn't seem to stand up to the competition coming out over the 3 month period of May to July.
     
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    This poll is proving The Last Jedi is very important reason for Solo's disaster.
     
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    TLJ may indeed be an important factor but it'll take more than the vote of 4 SW fans to prove that's the case! ;)
     
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    Well if we should believe Film industry controlled social media all 4 TLJ haters have just spent their votes. One of them been the one who created 200 000 accounts to Rigg TLJ rotten tomato approval score to 46%;)
     
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    Even when we see dozens or hundreds contribute to a poll on this site, I take it with a grain of salt. We're a very distinctive niche that doesn't tell a whole lot about the whole of the fan base. We don't know how many fans stopped participating or just flat out quit, nor how many joined and for what reasons since TLJ. When I see polls on here, I take it that people within this site think "this way", not so much all SW fans think "this way".
     
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    Even if 100,000 "fans" are boycotting Solo because of TLJ that's like what, $1-2 million less box office. That can't be the the only factor involved.
     
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    Forgetting power of today's spread of information. That is why we have controlled social media and its conscious or unconscious agents on every doorstep of the internet.
    What one thinks and says today is seen by more people than any time in history.And what a group sees and wants, believes in, is spread as an information to unimaginable number of people directly and indirectly, modulating public opinion.
    That is why the ultimate power is over the true information, which is modulated and made relative.
    There are some that surf trough that .
    Because any farce is not forever, as everything it serves its purpose for the time being.

    Replace books with Internet and controlled social media and we actally live in this kind of world:



    Video I posted, listen comander around 1:55. We all have to be made alike,equal. Thats SJW. Who has the ears one listens,who has the eye one sees.

    Apology for OT.
     
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    Sure, if you're assuming the "backlash" is from only tens of thousands, or the vocal minority (as is popular in the mainstream), then sure, it couldn't have that big of an impact. I think it's more layered and runs deeper due to the layers. If you only count the people who "hate" it, then your number may be close, but I'm pretty sure there are many more who strongly dislike it, or are tired of it, underwhelmed, feel trolled (but not enough to hate), as well as different amounts of mixed feelings. Many of those are not doing a hard boycott, or care enough to look things up, they've just drifted to other media that suits their tastes better (there's lots of that this spring and summer).

    I don't have an exact number for you, nobody does. That's what is insidious about it. Everyone is trying to figure that out, especially Disney. Many are throwing around guesses, but so far I haven't seen a single aspect that has all "haters" united. Which is what makes this all the more complicated. It's not really something you can accurately poll. All polls seem specific to certain demographics, which then has built in errors.

    Which is going to make this very hard to course correct. I think it's inevitable that some fans will be left in the lurch (and by extension, Disney will lose their money).

    It also needs to be pointed out that if those 100,000 fans are die hards who'd usually take in a SW movie 3-5 times each, that number of lost revenue increases quickly.

    I'm not saying TLJ is the only reason, and most others I read about on here are not saying that either, but it likely is a factor, but right now nobody knows how big of a factor (Admittedly, some make it out to be a huge factor, or the main factor, but just like your 100,000, those are all guesses.).
     
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    Ready?
    Prepare dislikes.

    Reality.

    Based on DVD reviews, and exit polls it is possible to estimate how many people was serriously hurt by TLJ in the way that it could influence their attendance to Star Wars in general, at least while the wound was still fresh, which fitts to the Solo theatric run time window.

    32 % general audience miniumum, 40 % general audience maximum was severily shaken by The Last Jedi.

    If we take my most probable estimate of 37-38 % of general audience, and add to this objectively poor marketing (compared to Last Jedi marketing for instance) it actually explains Solo's box Office result completly.

    Of course this means many of that 37-38% of "shaken" audience will not reset until Ep IX. Some will, but some will not. Difficult to tell.

    I am sure Disney must have similar results.
     
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    I agree that there is a certain bias on a Star Wars related message board when it comes to Star Wars but the best place to ask fans abouttheir oppinion is a website like this. Even though I would love to get a more unbiased sample unfortunately I don't have the means to do so. However, the survey already seems to indicate 2 things. a) there were indeed numerous reasons why SOLO flopped and b) TLJ seems to be a one of the more important factors why SOLO performed so poorly at the BO.
     
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    I just saw Solo this past weekend. It just hit at a really inconvenient time for me.
    Had a lot going on and just didn't take the time to go see it.

    Lack of marketing to make me want to HAVE to see it and just being in a busy time of summer was bad news.
    I thought the marketing looked fun and solid. And that's what the movie was.
     
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