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IF you think about it Anakin Skywalker DID bring balance to the force

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Crispy The Jedi, Dec 4, 2015.

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    Now you are seeing things from an evil A.I.'s perspective, no people means no conflict, problem solved, bada bing bada boom!
     
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    It reminds me of the Man of Steel film. Jorel tells his son you will be the light for earth people to follow...it is your destiny to save them...Space Jesus....self fulfilled prophesy...etc, etc. However the same Superman who saves the Earth is the very same guy that brings the destruction in the first place. General Zod wouldn't be on Earth in the first place if not for Superman.

    Perhaps in the context of Star Wars it is the will of the Force that the Jedi Order be wiped out so they can start anew. If they can't see the Sith two feet from their face in PT then there was a problem. Even when Luke starts a new Jedi Order it is once again purged. Is this the Force telling us something? Perhaps the Force is willing Luke go back to the roots of what a Jedi Order should be and start from scratch. Who knows?
     
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    I don't get what space Jesus means ?
     
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    Side effect really? The prophecy left out a pretty important detail then. The elimination of the jedi and the death of billions rather seems more important to me than killing one single sith. Anakin wasnt a ,,chosen one", he was a psychopat, a traitor and murderer. The prophecy should've warned the jedi about a guy with tremendious amout of midichorians, not calling him a ,,chosen one". If he woudn't betray the jedi in the first place there wouldn't be anything to bring balance into... And as it was mentioned above he was never even special or powerful. Dooku kicked his ass, Obi-wan kicked his ass aswell, despite he as in his prime there. Luke also kicked his ass after a couple years of training.
    Making him Space Jesus was the stupidest idea ever, and contradicts with the originals in every way. In the originals he was just a henchmen, an executioner. In ANH he could've easely died in his tie-fighter.

    I think Lucas didnt really think this whole thing through. Just make Anakin important for some reason, and shovel in shiny CGI so maybe noone will notice how stupid the plot is. Sadly we Star Wars fans will over-analyse every epsiode so nothing will stay hidden.
     
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    Eh, the quality of the PT or the Prophecy aren't the debate here though. If you accept the Prophecy, Anakin was the Chosen One, the creator said so and the creator makes it so, simple as that. Its perfectly alright if you ignore the PT altogether if you don't like it, but if you are going to discuss the Prophecy, the only answer is that Anakin was the Chosen One.

    I personally think the PT is very flawed and the whole prophecy isn't really necessary to the arc of the films IMO, Anakin's redemption at the hands of his son is already powerful enough. But if I'm going to acknowledge it, I'll go along with what the creator said, even if I think its kind of silly ;).
     
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    Its not like Im ignoring the PT, as the PT have many great elements and it expanded the world of OT pretty much.
    However the prophecy and the chosen one ideas are the ones I hate the most in the PT. For me it just feels like Lucas wanted to make Anakin important somehow, so he made up the chosen one idea. But the whole idea just contradicts with the originals so much its really hard to watch the two trilogies as one complete story. Why should he be Space Jesus? He could've easely been just a regular guy who made terrible mistakes...

    Imo the idea of propehies in the star wars lore just cant fit. Yoda said in ESB that the future is always in motion and is unpredictable, and when Luke (the strongest jedi in canon) had premonitions about a possible future, it changed instantly when he rushed to cloud city. Imo if there is someone who dosent need prophecies, is a jedi. The jedi can see the future, so they can easely verify if a prophecy is ture or flase. Not to mention if someone would prophecise the terrible future where sith took over it would instantly cause a butterfly effect which would change the future radically.
    And how could anyone see 1000 years into the future? I always interpreted the jedi's future seeing abilities as something which is tied to their loved ones or to someone who they have strong connection with, and not random images from 1000 years later...

    As it was mentioned above I rather support the ,,Luke is the chosen one" idea, if we have to accept the prophecy as canon. No matter what Lucas said, it makes a lot more sense. He was a true hero, a trustful unselfish man who never betrayed his firends, and rushed to save them regardless of his personal interest. He eventually defeated his evil fathter, but still sacrificed himself to save him. His altruism, and heroic soul lead to the victory of the good again.
     
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    I think the Jedi labeled it "a prophecy", while it was just the force reacting to modern events of the Galaxy. i think of it like the seasons in Game of Thrones, sometimes they are thrown out of balance do to events in the world. Same thing with the force in the SW Galaxy, it has it's ups its downs and its middling points throughout history. "Prophecy" is just an erroneous interpretation.
     
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    Pre Anakin, Hundreds or thousands of Jedi. 2 sith. Post Anakin handful of Jedi 2 sith. Not fully in balance but much closer.
     
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    I never like the whole 'chosen one' thing. Just seems so contrived.
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    In the end Return of the Jedi, Anakin redeems himself as the Chosen One. He does bring balance to the force in a way. The force has two main sides. The light and the dark. A lot of people don’t understand the purpose of “balance”. Balance doesn’t mean one side has more prosperity. It means that both sides live in harmony or have equal amounts of greatness and such. Anakin betrays the jedi and becomes a sith. There is no balance yet here. Before this, the Jedi lived at peace with no presence of the sith for a millennium. No balance. After the whole empire was destroyed and Vader killed the emperor, the leader of the Sith, there was still no balance. At this time, Anakin truely was the Chosen One, but there was still no balance. Until the end of the ST, there is no balance. In ROS, there is finally balance which is shown with the “death” and revivals of Ben and Rey. So, I guess Anakin brought balance in a way where he passed on the fight for balance in the force, but I would not go to say that he brought balance to the force directly if ya know what I mean.
     
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