Ignoring the Star Wars haters

Agreed. I seriously can't believe some people are really upset that much about TLJ.

 

@DailyPlunge We must be Vulcan-mind-melding as I was considering creating much the same thread as this. Thanks.

 

It's not a small minority, it's not bots, it's not fanboys living in thier mom's basement. There is a very vast group of people who......

Hate, dislike, complain strongly, disagree or just plain felt like it was "ok, but not great" or i "liked TFA a whole lot more".

This is a real problem Disney haves on it's hands. Because todays 1.3 billion dollar "ok" SW film may become a 500 million dollar "good/great" SW film in a few years.

LFL better find the magic back fast.

 

"Very vast" would seem to me to be every single indicator/poll/etc showing a large majority HATING the film. Looking across the polls that is not the case.

I disagree with the use of "very vast" in this.

 

If you add up not just the pure haters, but add the "it was ok" "it was a C+" "it was better then Rouge 1 but worse then the OT" then yeah it's at least 50%.

Like is not = 2 love.

 

Didn't AOTC make less money than TPM?

 

Yeah and TESB made less then ANH. But TLJ had thee biggest % drop of the 3 "part 2s".

 

Even so, TFA did make over 2 billion. That's a lot of money to catch up to.

 

Which makes me think R1 should of been made first. It wood of made dat same 2 billion. Then TFA wood of made 1.8 & Then Solo, then TLJ in December of 2018.

 

Idk. I mean TFA was Episode 7, while RO was a prequel to ANH.

 

Fear of what has not happened (but which one hoped to happen)

leads to anger and perhaps hate over what has happened

which leads to suffering.

Yoda, warned us all you did.

I find things become far more enjoyable when there can be opportunities to explore and appreciate positive aspects of things rather than to dwell on perception-based imperfections and things which might generally fail to conform to personal preferences.

Thankfully, perspectives and awareness can evolve over time, and we can learn to sense things differently.

Perhaps in a decade or so I will have a different perspective on the Sequel Trilogy. Right now I'm enjoying it, but I always accept in advance others can and should have their own certain points of views.

I'm just grateful so many of us can discuss these things, constructively air differences, speculate, connect ideas, and learn new things about the films and ourselves.

I look also forward to Solo with great enthusiasm while, at the same time, I know there will be many who will have their own reactions, mostly sincere, but some trolling as well. That is a long-since given on the Internet.

Hopefully we will have many more opportunities to discuss and theorize fun, cool, new things -- characters, locations, vehicles, ideas -- more than anything else.

One tip that always helps me to perform a sanity-calibration of these conversations: any one of my opinions is simply my own, and, however strongly I might feel about any one of them, I realize others have their thoughts, experiences, and their own imaginations and reactions, and I must respect that phenomenon and welcome it as an opportunity to experience other ideas and to even test or challenge my own perceptions.

The resultant diversity of those collective opinions and shared ideas is actually a blessing, I think, once all of that is allowed to play out as it should:

through friendly, inclusive, constructive, and creative dialogue conducted respectfully and with that certain openmindedness Star Wars encourages, if not requires of fans, as we continue to share amazing and thought-provoking journeys through various worlds and eras in this expansive saga.

 

@JediMasterRobert

Ahhhh what a beautiful post.

For me Disney has ripped my Saga loving heart out. I mean if u think ABOUT it.....we haven't had a SW movie with a trully happy ending since TPM.

AOTC, start of the clone wars with a secret wedding.

ROTS, well we saw that twin sunrise with hope but now sadly we know Luke

Spoiler

dies

a shell of himself so it becomes less meaningful.

TFA, Han's death & pre intruduction of shell Luke.

R1, Everbody dies. Well we do get 2 c Leia but now Carrie is gone.

TLJ, We get Broom Boy & we'll never c him again.

I feel the ST is on a miserable hampster wheel.

Hopefully Solo will have a TRULLY happy ending but i bet Qi'ra dies.

 

Again, I am being pulled back into this.

IMDB shows 55% of 282,000+ voters giving it an 8/10 or greater.

55%

8/10 or greater.

And one more thing....it is R-O-G-U-E

 

Yes to this thread. Yes, there are valid criticisms to The Last Jedi, and you shouldn't feels pressured to like it if you didn't, but I think it should be noted that the people who outright hated it are a very vocal minority, most of which are just mean trolls. (That's not including people who simply disliked it, it's just the most extreme example on that side of the scale.) I think most people liked the movie, but there are certainly divisive things that will keep fan discussion going up until Episode 9, and maybe even beyond that.

(Whatever your opinion on The Last Jedi is, it is not okay to say awful things to people like Rian Johnson or Kelly Marie Tran on their birthdays. To be honest, it's childish and pathetic to hate a movie so much that you have to attack the cast and crew on their birthdays.)

Let's just be, forgive me for sounding like Obi-Wan, civilized about this. Let's understand that not everyone will agree with you and that's okay. After all, this is what makes everybody unique and keeps them from being a bunch of programmed droids.

 

I'd rather have good SW films that make less money than appeasing fanboys by making safe and predictable SW movies for the sake of making money. You listen to some of the alternate stories that people who hated the movie come up with for how they would do the film differently, and it's some of the most lame, implausible and predictable crap imaginable.

 

There is also a tiny, ugly and very vocal group of people trying to paint the majority of negative sentiments for this movie as being just misogyny and closed mindedness.

Believe it or not, one can hate Rose the character without necessarily hating all womankind.

 

"But there is a movie that’s [sic] I found to be both slightly flawed but deeply beautiful."

Pretty much sums it up.

Especially the "deeply beautiful" part.

It amazes me how selfish and shallow some Star Wars fans can still be...

You would think that after the prequel trilogy era we all would've learned a few very important lessons.

Seems there are still a few of us who haven't.

Do not get me wrong, I understand the concept of conditional love.

It's absolute.

Basically translating to "My way or the highway".

It's a very selfish type of love.

"If you don't do exactly what I want, I won't love you anymore."

That's a sad way to live.

Especially considering that the fans who act this way most likely act the same way towards everything in their lives.. not just Star Wars.

I rather love unconditionally.

Both the negative and the positive aspects.


"Ride the Tide"

-SOAS

 

I only feel the need to ignore haters of TLJ if their reasoning is hyperbolic, or purely speculative/anectodal.

And I find myself ignoring lovers of the film for the same reasons.