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ILM Releases Special FX for TFA

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by FN-3263827, Sep 10, 2016.

  1. FN-3263827

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    this video is too short, but worth a watch (and a pause here and there to see some details!).
    so much work went into creating so much awesomeness.

    for all the people who like to argue about practical effects vs. digital, this is a nice demonstration of how TFA really used a balance to its best advantage.
     
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    What a coincidence! I've just seen it an hour ago!
    I agree with that. Even if the PT has some beautiful moments, there is to much digital and the OT has his beautiful moments but sometimes, the digital effects can be out of fashion. TFA is just in the middle ground of the digital effects and with beautiful moments.
     
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    I think TFA had even more vfx than the prequels .
     
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    That is only a quantitative number, even Mad Max Fury road had over 2000 and if you saw the BRoll you wouldn't believe that. I don't even know how they count is every shot of Reys speeder a VFX, when they take out the behicle below it or is that counted as a practical effect?

    Funny how much smarter we afterwards are, when we saw set photos and first footage nobody said it looks fake. They did a great job of balancing things.
     
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    I'm amazed of what they can do.
     
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    A practical effect is Luke's speeder on Tattooine and a vfx is a digital effect so removing the track digitally in post production counts as a vfx .
     
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    That's what I thought, so a complete CGI scene has the same count as this, that's why I don't trust to much on quantitative methods.
     
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    Yeah, I know but they are less evident while those of the PT were obvious.
     
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    Exactly! When it came to watching the PT, it was obvious as to what was CGI and what was not. In TFA, many people were amazed to find out that Platt was mostly practical, or the x-wing pilot Ello Asty was an actor in a costume. BB-8 was practical most of the time with VFX to remove the puppeteer and rigs. But many people thought he was CGI 100% of the time. The final battle between Rey and Kylo in the forest on Starkiller was a practical set. I was not 100% sure of this until I watched the extras on the DVD release. The lumbering droid that is sauntering by as our heros walk up to MAz's castle. These are just a couple of examples, but it goes to show just how much of an amazing job ILM did.
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    I remember seeing an interview with JJ, where he explained that the reason why they claim there are more VFX in this movie then any other SW movie, was because of all the post production work to remove wires, rigging and puppeteers from the shots.
     
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    Still a awesome clip.
     
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    To be fair to the prequels Lucas used them pretty much as a test bed for new and upcoming technology for vfx so we should be crediting them partially for tfa .
     
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    But you are fully aware what other movies did with vfx in that time? People felt let down because it didn't meet the standard.
     
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    Well yEAH, of course other movies did further the technology...I'm just saying, and I've seen the interviews with Rob Coleman and John Knoll and all where they've stated that they wanted to show off the newest tech that ILM was working on at the time and practically begged Lucas to do it so he agreed which is why it looks the way it does...it definitely could have been done a lot better or not at all but it is what it is but like I said it's PARTIALLY why it was used and btw, VFX evolves double each year from what I have heard
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    It think it was very new though in the prequels, more experimental, there's been a lot of experience gathered in the best way to integrate practical and VFX since.
    Its reflected in this movie, though to its credit the prequels had some good VFX to, in parts.
     
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    Yeah if it wasn't for Lucas constantly allowing for boundaries to be pushed ten we might not even have the level of vfx for TFA...even other movies that are near-photorealistic like the second POTC movie
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