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SPOILER I'm glad I was wrong about this movie - a personal perspective

Discussion in 'Solo' started by PrincessLeiaCB3, May 23, 2018.

  1. PrincessLeiaCB3

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    Alright, I'm taking a leaf out of @Angelman here and just to acknowledge something I have been mentioning before.

    Solo is not the movie we fans deserve. It is the movie we needed right now!

    Something fun, light, endearing. I'm a fan of the previous three (TFA, RO, TLJ) but we have to admit their tone has been different to this one.

    And yes, I was one of those not happy about Alden cast as Han. I am glad I was proven wrong. We needed not an impersonation of the Han we know and love, we needed a younger Han, not a carbon copy of the scoundrel we met in Tatooine, one that had to go through different experiences to become that scoundrel. His interactions with Chewbacca were really neat.

    There is a bunch of Easter eggs for the fans that tie a lot of things in a very nice way. As a canon geek, I was grinning during the entire movie.

    Maul OMG. The icing of the cake, having Sam Witwer voicing him with Ray Park reprising his role was amazing. I was sitting awed and really glad about this. And of course the end leaves the door open for potential sequels. Bring it on, LFL!

    After watching this movie and reading Last Shot, I'm a big fan of L3. If there was a droid heaven, she would be having a field day in conversation with Kaytoo. But it is such a poetic thing that her memory lives in the MF, and it makes sense from the perspective we got from TLJ novelisation, where it mentions the MF has 3 computers and they like to gossip with Artoo.

    Qi'Ra. Quite an interesting character. Of course she would not shine brighter than the iconic characters we already know and love - Han, Chewie and Lando - but she brings her own personality to the character. Some might frown upon having a past love interest for Han - we cannot see him with other than Princess Leia herself - but it shows how the Han we met in ANH was different and how the experiences he faces make them become what he was, but kept his heart of gold deep hidden. BTW, The Cape Closet scene is totally a callout to the kiss with Leia in TESB IMO.

    I thought Lando was alright, but didn't steal the show. I would have liked to have more of Val and L3. But overall the movie was fantastic.
     
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    I really loved the phoography for this movie, specially when it was used one colour filter for a particully scene.
    Also the introduction was pretty cool, I liked how the SOLO logo appears and disappears in the screen.
    Not sure about the apparittion of Maul yet. To me he died in TPM and is hard to believe that he is alive in the new canon.
     
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    Can't wait to read your entire comments (and all threads here) without being spoiled ;P

    Tickets for tomorrow night. So excited!
     
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    L3 is not
    ded, she lives in the MF's computer
     
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    Her memory but the body is gone.

    Semantics! Let me have that fantasy of L3 and Kaytoo being friends in droid heaven! Lol
     
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    For some reason I'm enraptured with the thought of her and Threepio arguing back and forth. The next time I see "take the professor back and plug him into the hyperdrive" I'm going to be thinking he is in for it.

    We now definitely have a better idea of how the Falcon learned to communicate and for some reason I can't put my finger on, love it very much even though I wasn't over the moon with L3 herself (but am more on her side than I expected as it just clicked for me that droids are sentient) but just okay with her.

    Super deft, high class fan service I guess is what is and this piece of the movie just makes me feel almost supremely serviced to the point I didn't even know it at the time.

    I almost want to give the movie another star for somehow making me love the Millennium Falcon more. It's almost like finding away to add to the infinite in an observable fashion.
     
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    I agree Val and L3 were gone too soon!

    I would LOVE to see L3 and K2SO interact.
     
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    @PrincessLeiaCB3 You captured my thoughts and feelings exactly. A lot of people are posting on here "Yeah it was good, nothing great, kind of vanilla....etc etc etc". I don't see that at all. I LOVED it, a LOT. Thought it was really special....a SW movie through and through with a little more dash of Indiana Jones/ESB vibe maybe. I really would like to understand what changes Ron Howard made, as a huge fan of his I hope his changes made it into the special film it was.

    More than a few people on here are saying it was "nothing special" and "kind of vanilla"

    Well, we have our FIRST Star Wars movie that has/shows:

    1. No Jedi NOR Sith (in bodily form)
    2. No use of Light Sabers (please don't bring up Dryden Vos' plasma cutter)
    3. No R2 nor 3PO
    4. No Imperial/First Order/Rebel/Resistance leadership discussions/scenes etc
    5. No opening scene in space (FIRST TIME EVER)
    6. A unique opening without a crawl - using the blue lettering from "A Long Time Ago...." to set it up
    7. Entirely set in a part of the SW Universe we had heard about a lot, but did not see from the "inside"

    I would argue this movie is VERY unique for a SW movie. Lots of calls on here for different SW movie stories, well here is one with a unique story that shows the GFFA from a different perspective entirely. Here is the movie that shows bounty hunters, smugglers, that side of SW a lot of people were clamoring for.

    This movie has a LOT of heart. The interactions with Han and Chewie are portrayed perfectly. The Sabacc table scenes were exquisite, detailed, and so much fun to watch. Glover's Lando was incredibly well-done, it was obvious he spent time with Billy Dee to get his mannerisms right.

    My favorite scene makes me tear up thinking about it - when Chewie hops into the copilot seat for the first time with Han in the pilot seat. Han looks over at Chewie and just smiles.....so well done.....bravo Ron Howard!
     
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    Alden isn't Han. Donald Glover is SOMETIMES Lando. L3 was nails on chalkboard. Nest was lame. No big battle at the end.

    Yet I cant "HATE" this movie like I did TLJ.

    It's more then ok but less then good if such a word exists.
     
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    We agree to disagree then. I for one am happy someone other than Harrison Ford is playing Han, and think Alden nailed it. You've gotta admit he had a lot of pressure on him, right? I think at least he put all the "pre-movie Alden" haters in their place.

    OK you've piqued my interest on something I have seen before.....in your mind is it impossible for anyone else to play Han other than Harrison Ford? If not, what exactly did Alden do or not do that you disagreed with from the perspective of him being Han Solo?
     
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    yeah i had so much fun with this film, reminded me of why i loved star wars.. walked out so happy. After hating the last Jedi and all the negativity around this film... it feels so good to love a Star Wars film again!

    And Maul... they included Maul.... never saw that coming! it gives me hope for the future of the franchise if the have the balls to include Maul!
     
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    I have been saying this for sometime but Disney should have focused on good/standalone movies because it gives them more freedom in storytelling from a certain POV.

    The Saga movies (including the PT) are just too divisive because every storyline, every character has to jive with the OT. You bring back old Luke and 1/2 of the fans will love it and 1/2 the fans will hate it.

    The standalone must conform to the OT narrative but you can introduce new characters that don’t have to be dissected on their heritage like Rey. You can introduce a villain like Krennic that won’t be dissected like Snoke.

    I think the standalones in the end will hold up better because they can be watched as their own entity, where the PT and ST wiil always be compared to the OT. I hope Disney (after Episode 9) really focuses on good standalone stories because they can be more fun and don’t have to take themselves as seriously as the Saga movies.
     
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    when people say only Harrison Ford can play Hans (which i sorta agree with), i always think of Carrie Fisher doing Princess Leia again. There's definitely only one Leia, but it didn't quite seem right when she came back in The Force Awakens. Because she looked like a completely different person, with a completely different voice, and her character had changed -- she wasn't as spikey and lively as in the original trilogy.
    it was the same with luke, i suppose. how much of the new luke matched the one we remembered? hardly anything.

    it was the same actors, and same characters, but playing them with completely different personalities.

    the best impression i've seen of an actor doing another actor was chris pine doing captain kirk. there were moments in that first reboot when you could definitely see a bit of william shatner in him.
     
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    ….and I must add there were MANY moments in SOLO of Alden showing mannerisms, facial expressions, speech patterns of Harrison Ford's Han Solo.
     
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    Yup!

    Well said- I utterly agree.

    There’s a vehicle for delicious storytelling here... and I think it’s all going to come out essentially fresh after IX. I think the Star Wars universe is going to *blossom* into something that will engage us in some new, creative ways that will still manage to hold on to the basics that thrilled us from the beginning.

    I’ve got faith that they’re gonna play a long, strong game for our money. –And I’ll thank them for it.
     
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    @Jayardia Totally agree, you've nailed my perspective. SOLO has really fired me up for the future of SW more than any of the episodic movies so far. It's no coincidence that I have R1 and SOLO ranked higher than TFA and TLJ in my favorites. Maybe after Ep IX we will see a move away from Ep X-XII and focus on these stand-alones?
     
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    I'd argue Pine isn't doing Shatner at all but he did portray James T Kirk and the same applies to Alden here.

    In fact, in TFA I found Carrie more jarring reprising Leia than Alden ever was as Han fortunately she was much stronger and Leia like in TLJ to me and I probably adapted between my ears a bit to an older Carrie too.

    For my money Han was more Han than he ever was in ROTJ and Luke was very much Luke to me just with a lot more mileage and heartache.

    I don't get why movies cause so much resistance to recasting, parts have been constantly recast for hundreds and thousands of years on the stage.

    Shoot, I've watched someone else perform a role I was still actively performing more than once back in my day.
     
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