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In-progress Google Doc compilation of The Last Jedi rumors/spoilers

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Protocol Droid, Jun 2, 2017.

  1. Darth Klaugott

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    Well, Luke + Rey dynamics will probably occupy a great part of the first half of the movie so it will be the beating heart of the movie, independently from Kylo showing up or not on Ahch-To

    2 events: Kylo killing Luke or Kylo starting a redemption path thanks to Luke, Rey or both.

    This could happen, but for now we haven't a single clue about Rey showing up on the Raddus
     
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    His redemption arc (I'm pretty sure he will be redemed) may come one way, another or another one. Regardless his actual presence on Ahch to.

    Sure it's not 100% confirmed. So its contrary.

    We only know that Chewie is on the Raddus. That there's another battle in the deep space (not above D'Qar), that Rey, Finn ad Rose go the Supremacy (and Chewie too, if the lego set are accurate.... in this case, if Rey is alredy there: who's the pilot?), that Crait most likely follows the Supremacy and that durig the battle of Crait Kylo is leading the FO assault.
    The latter moves whatever may push him to the light side (if there is in this movie) at least near the finale.

    In addition, if the events sequence is more similar to what I suggest, then Rey has to leave the Island before the 2 act mid point...
    the mid point of the 2nd act and the game change of the movie, will be whatever happens on the Supremacy.
    Therefore Luke has to show up, after that, to give the movie enough time to let them be the heart of the very same movie and to make any sense of Oscar Isaac's words about Luke near the finale.

    However, only saying this is something I find more compelling.
    You may see it otherwise, just because - and I think it's a great thing - we cannot connect all the points by now
    without speculating at least a bit.
    It's still a matter of interpretation.
     
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    So, could this be the most likely timeline of the MAJOR stuff that happens in the film?

    Evacuation and Battle of D'Qar- 100% chance of occurrence (based on trailer and leaked info)

    Battle of Ahch-To between Rey/Luke and Kylo - I'd say 65% chance (there was evidence of a battle being spotted and Adam was in Ireland for shots)

    Infiltration of the Supremacy and Rey's capture - 90% chance because we know they will infiltrate Snoke's ship but Snoke torturing Rey could be a Vision

    Battle of Crait - 100% as we have seen it.

    One thing we don't really know is what happens to Luke after Rey and co inevitably leave Ahch-To, does he go with them and help rescue Rey? Does he stay on Ahch-To?
     
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    I wonder if Kylo Ren is fighting Praetorian Guards in Rey's force vision on Ahch-To from either the past or the present, like she's seeing them live but they're not really on Ahch-To, like Luke's vision of Vader on Dagobah in TESB.
     
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    I did a bit of color correcting on the video (this is the Millennium Falcon), the contrast and gamma levels were overblown so I fixed it a tad.

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    This could be one of the last scenes of the movie if the Resistance remnants of Crait have gathered on the Falcon and Rey has her head injury.
     
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    I agree with that assessment. I think that the point of this particular movie is to separate the characters for the sake of having them grow individually and the point of the next one is to show them all working together (because seriously, Poe and Rey need to have scenes together at this point).
     
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    Good job
     
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    I suppose it belongs here :p trailer shot seems like it lines up with the leaked sets in Kerry?

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    Where is this?

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    Is it the same place as this?

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    Second shot is comparable, just looks like more lighting. Similar architecture.

    Medical bay? With injured Leia at the end of the film?

    And Ben saying he's sorry?
     
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    2m29s D23 Behind The Scenes video:



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    Ah, ok. So not the same location for Kylo then...
     
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    But that scene has to be after his TIE silencer attack on the Raddus. Otherwise, he'd still have the bandage.
     
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    I don’t disagree with your statement [I don’t think that it’s the same shot], but I’m not sure yet if the bandage is make-up.

    From what I recall, neither SWNN, MSW or anyone else have ever made any reference to it prior to the latest trailer/TV spots being released, when everyone saw it for the first time.

    Perhaps it went completely under the radar, but I find it odd that the first time we see it is two months before the movie, despite already having a teaser trailer, a BTS reel, a LEGO set, and a plethora of BTS stills which never depicted Kylo as having this space bandage. It’s completely feasible that we just hadn’t seen any of Kylo in the first act, which seems to be the only time in the movie when he’s wearing it.

    I think it’s possible, however unlikely - to be clear, I’m not concluding anything, and I could be reading into its absence in material prior to this a bit too deeply - that this is CG, and was added in post-.

    It could somewhat explain its absence in everything other than the trailer.
     
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    I'm not sure I understand... are you saying that those two scenes (Kylo - Finn, Rose and Poe) are set in the same place?

    Interesting...
    But if so, it's a FO or Resistance ship?

    I believed the scene Finn, Rose and Poe was set where Finn wakes up...
    or at least in another place/room of the same ship.

    But now... looks like the doors are different.

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    No, I was showing that Finn and Rose are probably in that room (or a similar room) with Poe going by the ceilings in particular.
     
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    [​IMG]

    This could be the Falcon in the background of Rey. The wall seems to have a curve to it as well.

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    Seems to me several characters get bloodied and bruised as the film progresses, but Kylo goes the other way, his blood and scars actually retreat a little as the film progresses. I can't say that with 100% confidence, but I thought it might match the overall arc/theme of the characters as well.
     
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    Is a TFA-"main"-character going to die in TLJ? Rey, Kylo, Poe, Finn, Luke, Leia, Chewie, Snoke, Hux, Phasma, ...?
    And if so, what relevance will it have for the story arc?
     
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    People often laugh when I say this, but I do believe they are setting Kylo Ren up to become a “goody guy.” Yes, I know, ‘how can audiences learn to love someone who killed everyone’s childhood hero, Solo?’ Yes, that is an issue they will need to resolve, but every time I see Kylo in a tv spot or trailer, he seems so... indecisive and...sad.
    Another theory I have is that Rey will turn evil. (This is not something I would like to see, but I feel it will happen nonetheless.) Trailers indicate Rey will end up on Snoke’s ship sometime in the second half of the movie. My theory is that Snoke sees the potential in her and rejects Kylo (similar to Emperor focusing on Luke instead of Vader) and will brainwash/torture her into submission. As much as I hate to say this, I do sense that Rey is going to be an integral part of Leia’s downfall. Kylo cannot kill his own mother, but Rey (who ironically hugged Leia at the end of VII) will be the one to finish the job. Thus, we have Kylo and Rey each killing off a Legacy character, thus making them “equal” in a way. Yes, I know it is brutal to suggest this, but I do think it may happen...
     
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