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Indiana Jones 5 coming 7/19/2019

Discussion in 'Indiana Jones' started by Djas Puhr, Oct 4, 2014.

  1. Djas Puhr

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    Meh... The problem one comes to with a franchise like Indiana Jones is that it revolves specifically around one character, unlike other franchises like Star Wars which can pull from different characters who are somewhat related (either by blood or by adventure).

    I figured the last one was somewhat supposed to be the "let's introduce a new character for spin-offs" movie... So maybe I could see something like that happening, with Ford appearing more as a mentor role in the film. Still don't think I'd label it as "Indiana Jones 5" but merely as part of a new series connected to the original character.

    Unless maybe they would use it to introduce a younger talent to play Indy in the years prior to 1937 (or whatever year the first movie took place in). I could see Ford being there in "contemporary times" possibly retelling the adventure, and even having an adventure with some connection to it. Thus they could set up the Indiana Jones franchise to possibly continue on, with a new lead and during earlier eras.

    Kind of like that "Young Indiana Jones" or whatever the series was, but for the big screen.
     
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    For myself, I'm not really interested in seeing anyone else play Indy, and hope the character dies with Ford.

    I enjoyed Crystal Skull more than most, and felt is was equally as good as the two other sequels to Raiders.

    I'd be up for a 5th.
     
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    Generally speaking, I'd be fine with a fifth movie so long as it wrapped up Indiana Jones's adventures for good (which the fourth one did well, but they did end it on an "the adventures shall continue" note). Then, of course, they could always do a semi-reboot showing Indy's adventures in time periods that haven't been shown on film, albeit with a younger actor.

    Hopefully, Disney wouldn't pull an Indiana Jones Legends thing with the non-movie works produced for the continuity, though. It was kind of a necessity with Star Wars, but referencing several of his other adventures in brand-new stories would probably help build a continuity than bog it down with too much lore.
     
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    I wouldn't be interested in seeing a younger Indy with a different actor.

    I would however, be open to seeing an animated Indy set in an earlier period, the 1940s for instance. When I say animated though, I'm thinking something on the level of Beowulf in terms of realism. Harrison Ford could then play his younger self much in the same way Jeff Bridges played his younger self in TR2N.

    I'm not much of a fan of the Young Indiana Jones series, but I do think it would be kind of neat if an elderly Ford reshot all the scenes with the elderly eye patched Indiana.
     
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    Has anybody here read the Frank Darabont (director of Shawshank Redemption) original Indy 4 script? It is really good and I highly recommend reading it http://www.theraider.net/films/indy4/multimedia/cityofthegods.pdf

    Now, my idea for the franchise is to do one more with Harrison to make up for that god awful alien mess and then continue the series with a new person. And I don't mean reboot, have Harrison become the head of the university and be the one sending a new archeologist out on crazy adventures. Harrison would basically be the Marcus of the new movies.
     
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    That might be okay, but it'd have to be set in the 1960s or later.
     
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    I wouldn't mind the next Indy being about Mutt Williams but Shia LaBeouff is a bit crazy so I doubt Disney would work with him again.
     
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    I didn’t hate Crystal Skull. It has some rough patches, but most people seem to center in on three things. 2 of which are very minor. Nuked the fridge, Monkey Vines, and This time God is Aliens.

    I can overlook the first two, and the third never really bothered me. It’s a decent movie, but I think the biggest problem with it is that Piffers showing its age. It’s interesting to see Indy out of the 30’s, but that’s where his type of adventurer belongs. Indy in the 50’s-60’s feels out of place and loses some of that wondrous sense of adventure you could find believable in a pre-WW2 world.

    I know as a SW fan this seems hypocritical to say, but sometimes it’s not bad to just let some things die and remember them as they were. Indy isn’t ready for the sort of modern audience expanded cinematic universe thing everyone is doing. At best you get one more movie out of Ford that may or may not tie things up neatly with a bow. To me it’s not worth it. I love the first 3 and like the 4th. Can’t we just leave it at that?
     
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    Yeah, that's the only downside. I'd rather a Indy film take place In the 30's
     
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    I can't hate on Crystal Skull either. People who get pissed about Indy in the fridge seem to forget about him falling out of an airplane in an inflatable raft for some reason. Like it wasn't awesome when we were 12! I'd have gotten rid of the Shia swinging like Tarzan on vines, but other than being my least favorite in the series it was a fun movie.

    I'd like to see Ford come back to do one last film and make it as good as they possibly can for him to go out on. Then let a few years pass and start the series over in the 30s with a new actor.
     
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    Check out @GBRIELGRY's Tweet:



    This was also accompanied with a tweet saying " announcements coming in the near future".

    I also Wonder if Lucas/Spielberg will be involved? I'm guessing not Lucas since he's retired. And he may not want to do it.
     
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    I think a 1960s era film could be done well, if it's done in the spirit and style of the early James Bond pictures.

    For myself, I'd like to see an animated Indy film in the manner I described above, mainly because I'd like to see the 1940s explored. You could have Indy starting out in Hawaii trying to pick up some Tiki god trinket, maybe with lava flows and stuff. Then you can get him into the South Pacific, maybe Easter Island as he pursues the McGuffin. But then ultimately have to go into the heart of fascist Japan to find it. Having some kind of Japanese McGuffin would be great, because you can have the fascist Japanese as the villains in place of Nazis. And the who film could have an Asian/polynesian vibe to it. It would also be an opportunity to have the female character be a kind of "Rosey the Riviter" archetype.

    I'd also like to see part of an Indy film done in fascist Italy under Mussolini, which not very many WWII era films delve into. I kind of wish they had done this with the Last Crusade.

    I'd have to respectfully disagree. I think the Indy character fits perfectly with the kinds of Cold War paranoia adventure films that were being produced in the 1950s.

    The monkeys and the Nuke the fridge were really just fine. Honestly I had more of a problem with the south american natives seemingly resting inside of stone just waiting for Indy to come along. Although, that's exactly the kind of schlock one would see in films from the 1950s period. I do wish they had a different creepy crawly other than giant ants, as we already saw insects in Temple of Doom. I would have preferred piranhas or electric eels or something aquatic.

    The primary problems I think the film had though, were two fold. First, in all three previous Indy films, the McGuffin follows the legends of the artifact fairly faithfully. With regards to the legend of the 13 Crystal Skulls, the skulls are human skulls, not alien skulls. I think it was a mistake to veer that far from the original legends.

    Second, I didn't care for the manner in which they treated the aliens. I think actually seeing them was a mistake. I think the "supernatural" vibe of the Indy franchise would have been better served if their presence was felt in a spooky sort of way, similar to how the aliens in 2001 were treated, in which their presence is only felt and not seen.

    Ultimately though, I still enjoy the movie flaws and all.
     
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    Yeah, I'll amend my statement a bit. Indy can work in the 50's. I just don't think they did enough to make it work. Had they made the effort to link the 50's and the communists more to the aliens and indy's own arc I think it could have worked better.

    And I do agree with you. Not to open up that old an of worms, but showing the aliens so freely at the end has a lot in common with George's approach to the prequels. He uses what he has available to overstate his case. 70's and 80's Lucas (And I'd argue Spielberg as well)was limited in what he could do both financially and technologically and it streamlined his work and forced him to not always disclose everything. He implied things more instead of showing them, and i think it made the works artistically more coherent. Lucas and Spielberg need someone around to help filter them or sometimes they just geek out a bit too much and forget to edit themselves.
     
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    I think the "James Bond" approach is the best option if they want to make new Indy films. I don't think Chris Pratt would be my choice, though. I'd choose Bradley Cooper
    And please, no "Adventures of Mutt", starring Shia LaBoeuf
     
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    Well, if this really is gonna happen, I guess Pratt would be near the top of my shortlist for the role. I second the idea of Bradley Cooper though. But hmm.... I don't know.....maybe Garret Hedlund could work? It's hard to replace Ford.
     
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    I think Indy should be left alone to be remembered at its best. BUT, that being said....If they are going to reboot, I can't think of a better candidate than Pratt. He has a similar charisma to Ford that mixes that sarcastic sense of humor with dramatic chops and good action skills. He also sort of exudes that adventurer spirit needed for the role. Pratt as Indy might actually get me excited for a reboot.
     
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    I'll take Garrett Hedlund or Anthony Ingruber if he can act, i don't feel Chris Pratt is right for the role.
     
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    I'd only use Anthony Ingruber if he is a young version of Harrison Ford's character. If they're going the James Bond route bring on Pratt, Cooper, or Hudland. Any of those work for me!
     
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