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Is Disney making the right call on another prequel film?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Old Biff from the Future, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. DEKKA129

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    Well, I thought that Brian Daley nailed it pretty well in the radio drama all those years ago. (And if you've never heard it, give it a listen - I think you can find it on YouTube.) As I recall, Leia's ship made an unscheduled drop out of hyperspace, feigning some sort of external malfunction (the ship's droid overseer seemed surprised that they were dropping out of hyperspace ahead of schedule, so I assume that nobody but Leia and the captain knew of the true nature of the mission.) Artoo was sent out onto the hull to pretend to fix the blown component, and either he picked up the transmission or the ship's receivers did. Then they hightailed it out of there.

    Their next stop was Tatooine, where Leia intended to meet with Obi Wan to ask his help. And of course, Vader's star destroyer had tracked them and that's about where ANH picks up.

    So I don't think they were tooling around the galaxy for awhile before they set course for Tatooine. Maybe a circuitous route via hyperspace, but it seems like getting the Death Star plans back to Alderaan ASAP would have been the plan, so that the Rebels could have acted upon them, and so Bail Organa could have brought a copy before the Senate to get the word out about what the Empire was doing. (Remember, as of the beginning of ANH, the Senate was still a potential stumbling block for Vader and the Emperor - hence, Leia's threat to Vader about the Senate's reaction when they hear that Vader had attacked a diplomatic vessel.)

    Hopefully, Rogue One will stick fairly close to all of this.
     
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  2. Old Biff from the Future

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    so, we are looking at a few weeks before ANH?
     
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    Reread the transcript recently, Artoo was sent out to receive the data (so nothing would be in the ship's computer) but I believe everybody felt that Leia was inserting the data into Artoo before his departure in the actual film.

    The problem is that the "Lucas Notes" from Summer 1977 (!) suggested differently, i.e. that Leia's ship was close to the Death Star. Worse, these notes published in the hardcover edition of The Making of Star Wars are not entirely authentic and received "upgrades".

    IMHO, this entitles the producers of Rogue One to excercize some artistic liberties how to present the story, they just have or should make certain that nothing does contradict ANH which currently is my bigger concern though I do have some faith in John Knoll.
     
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    Rogue One is a different type of prequel to the PT.

    For example, as already has been said, yes we do know the end result of the plot, but we don't know the end result of the characters.

    Another key point for me is that this is going to be a different type of film. This will be more war than fantasy.
     
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    To me this is like what Warner is doing with Harry Potter. They are taking the Fantastic Beast book..... Little excert that was in the film and building on very little. It will be done using just a few lines of dialog that was in SW to base Rogue One. Is it enough? What if its a major hit and tops 1.2 Billion WW? I mean it is coming off the heals of TFA, right? Where do they go from there as it seems they are back against a wall like Rebels is now. Why back into a wall again?
     
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    If I had to guess, R1 would start off potentially a year or two (maybe) before ANH and leads up to maybe right up to a few months or a year before ANH .
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2015, Original Post Date: Dec 23, 2015 ---
    How do we know he end result? These are all new characters as far As we know...
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2015 ---
    They're actually adapting that entire book from what I've heard .
     
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    I am referring to the plot, in which they are planning to steal the Death Star plans.

    As we know, they succeed. We don't know who stole them or how though.
     
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    What if they succeed in a transmission to Leia and get blown up ...
     
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    That is possible.

    But you appear to have misread my posts. We know the outcome of the plot as in, that they succeed in capturing the plans. I never mentioned characters, how they do it or who lives/dies, just that we know that they do succeed in some way.
     
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    Ohhh...yeh sorry I'm still waking up...I've been in carbonate freezing for 48 hours .
     
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    With my disappointment of The Force Awakens I am now turning my enthusiasm to anything that steers away from the Skywalker story. I think the Rogue One story has the potential to be powerful war story and a big box office success. Hopefully it will contain the 'grit' that TFA is sadly missing. I do hope they make an anthology film with Boba Fett and the Coruscant underworld, but after TFA I am not convinced Disney is capable of anything other than 'safe' material.
     
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    To me the R1 idea is stupied and it's only for making more Money. There are no need for the movie.

    When we go to the Theater we know that they will get the deat star plans at the end of the movie.
     
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    @HansOle

    Im with you on R1. Feel like there is no point of it just money hungry. With Rebels and TCW its fitting for it to be a anime series. I feel like R1 could of been a good HBO/Showtime show.

    What I like about TFA is that its a good open story just like the other trilogy. I was with my nephews and they are all about Star Wars now and they havent seen the first 6. so its fitting for them to go see Episode VII then backtrack. I want them to see it so they can relate and get into it more. instead of people(which I dont mind people do this) making kids watch 1-6 to watch 7. the original started at Ep. 4. i grew up watching in that order so. SW saga is a good saga to set yourself in.

    May the force be with you always...
     
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    My problem with TFA is that the story felt 'created' rather than a naturally progressive storyline. What are the chances that there is yet another force sensitive on a desert planet looking to the stars, only to discover a droid on a secret mission for the resistance/rebellion with a secret message? I could go on and on at this point but my main bone of contention is that it just felt 'written' for the audience, contrived, and I could not immerse myself in it whatsoever. I do understand why people like it and I think it's brilliant that the movie achieved bringing joy to so many. My hopes for Rogue One is that it would give us some hard-core meaty backbone to the resistance. Yes we do know the ending, but didn't everyone also know the ending to Titanic? I would really like to learn the backstory about the men and women that took up arms against the Empire, and why. I would like to know more about the Star Wars story than just following the historically repetitive Skywalker lineage. Even though I am an avid reader of Star Wars books and comics, it would be great to see such anthology on the big screen. It is a war story after all, a galactic war, and don't war stories make great blockbusters. Does a World War II film look better at the IMAX or as an anime or TV series? It's a no brainer.
     
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    My only concern is that Rogue One and the anthology prequels will confuse nominal fans. I had to break this down for a fellow fan and friend because he was questioning why they would be stealing the Death Star plans after they just blew up Star Killer.
     
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    never thought of that

    My only hope is that it is a story builds on it's own and that you don't have to know about SW ANH to understand it
     
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    I don't have massive story expectations from Rogue One. If I recall from either Celebration or D23 this year, it was mentioned that Rogue One won't have the same story style as the main trilogy films. I think that's important, because the "anthology" films should be distinct. I expect Rogue One and the other anthology films to flesh out secondary plot points, give backstory to characters, or answer questions about less detailed stories. Some examples:

    These Death Star plans were stolen -- who did that and how did it happen?
    Han ran into that bounty hunter on Ord Mantell -- what happened there?
    Luke formed Rogue Squadron -- what are some of their adventures?
    What happened to Boba Fett between the death of Jango and his pursuit of Vader's bounty on the Millennium Falcon?
    What was Lando's maneuver at the Battle of Tanaab?
     
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    That's my concern as well. How many will think this is the sequel to TFA? Sounds dumb to us fans but not everyone is into Star Wars as most of us here are. Disney better have a good marketing strategy worked out to prevent any confusion.
     
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    Yup, that is exactly what happened. He used Rey, Finn and group in the same sentence as Rogue One and I had to break down the timeline for him and explain Rogue One takes place between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope.
     
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