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Is Donnie Yens Rogue One Character Chirrut Îmwe Force-Sensitive or Not?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by SWNN Probe, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. SWNN Probe

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    Chirrut Îmwe, the blind spiritual warrior-monk from the upcoming Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, is probably the most interesting and mysterious character based on what we know from the movie. The biggest question that many people have is whether or not Yen's character is Force-sensitive. Some recent postings on different sites have confused many of the fans, so we will try to put everything on the table and try to answer the question: 'Is Chirrut Îmwe Force-sensitive or not?'...







    First let's start with Chirrut Îmwe's entry on the official Databank on StarWars.com:


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    The highlighted text pretty much answers the question and this article should end here. Unfortunately though, things with the Force are not that trivial. The fact that Îmwe lacks Force abilities doesn't mean that he can't feel the Force. Now let's take a look at Wookieepedia's entry on the term 'Force-sensitive':



    I think the meaning of the term 'Force-sensitive' is the main reason for the big confusion. Obviously, according to Wookieepedia, Force-sensitive is a synonym of a Force-user. If we use the term this way for Îmwe, then he is not Force-sensitive because 'he lacks Force abilities'. Yet still, he does appear to be 'sensitive' in the simple and direct meaning of the word, since he senses the Force.



    In a recent trailer, promoting the upcoming release of the book Star Wars: Galactic Atlas, Chirrut Îmwe has been described using similar terms from the quote above that has confused many of the fans.



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    He was described as: 'A blind warrior monk  and disciplined fighter, Chirrut is attuned to the mystical energy of the Force'.



    Apart from the obvious typo (probably just present in the trailer), this quote pretty much uses the same wording as Wookieepedia's description of 'Force-sensitive'. This trailer made many people believe that Îmwe is 'Force-sensitive' as a 'Force user'. But let's see what Lucafilm Story Group's Pablo Hidalgo had to say on the Force a few months ago that gives us a good idea what 'attuned to the Force' means, which appears to be the term that confuses fans the most.



    First, here's a recent question from a fan:








    And here are Hidalgo's thoughts on the Force that he shared a few months ago:

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    So to summarize what we understand from all this is that Chirrut Îmwe is not a Force user, he doesn't have special abilities, but he can listen to it. He is attuned to it. Actually his character stated this pretty clearly in the first trailer:


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    Also, it would be amiss for us to neglect mentioning George Lucas' view on the Force as well. Surely, many things have evolved over the years, but here's an interesting quote from a discussion between Lawrence Kasdan and Lucas (via Huffingtonpost):





    We need to make another clarification. In a recent interview with jetsetmag, Donnie Yen revealed that he first turned down to appear in the movie, because he didn't want to be away from his family for 5 months. Later he changed his mind mainly because of his kids, who wanted their dad to be in Star Wars. Yen also revealed that it was his idea to make his character in Rogue One blind:



    The author of this article used the words 'Force sensitive' for Yen's character and many people were confused. We've reached out to the author and asked him for clarification. Here's what he said:



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    So the term 'Force-sensitive' was not used by Yen in this interview, it was used by the author in the direct meaning of the word - that Îmwe senses the Force. Also it's nice to hear Yen confirming that there will be no Jedi in Rogue One. That's something that director Gareth Edwards said long ago.





    We are convinced that although he has attuned himself mentally and spiritually to the mystical energy which allows him to 'see' despite his physical blindness, Chirrut does not have the natural abilities that he would require to manipulate it. So we don't recommend that you go in to Rogue One expecting to see Donnie Yen levitating things and Force-pushing stormtroopers, but instead, look for a more spiritual and mental approach to the ancient religion from his character. We look forward to reading your thoughts on the character's connection to the Force in the comments below.





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    I hope he does, he has strong belief in the force.
     
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    ...it's still a little bit confusing to me..
     
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    Yes, he is.
     
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    I think they should only separate between 2 different categories:

    1. force user: can be a Jedi or Sith or other group who can manipulate the force in an active way, like levitating, speed, pushing, enhancing strenght, mind tricking, mind probing etc

    2. force sensitive: who has a connection to the force in a more passive way, like Leia sensing Luke is in danger or Han dying. Also Chirrut using it to overcome blindness falls into this category. They are no Jedi or Sith = no force manipulators

    Everything else would confuse people and makes it too complicated. ;)
     
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    I think he is Force Sensitive. Much like Maz Kanata is in Episode 7. She states "I'm no Jedi, but I know the Force" and I'm pretty sure that this is the case here.

    I mean the Jedi and the Sith didn't have an exclusive monopoly on Force aware/sensitive individuals. I think Nightangel's definition is spot on.
     
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    Oh maxi big da force:rolleyes:
     
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