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Is Ezra Bridger in fact Supreme Leader Snoke?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by master_shaitan, Feb 11, 2016.

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  1. master_shaitan

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    Many of you will know I am #TeamPlagueis through and through, however, I've been thinking of alternatives and something just struck me after watching the episode of Rebels that Leia is in.

    It was suggested to me the other day that Ezra could be Snoke and I dismissed it. However, a lot of it makes sense.

    1. Ezra was born on Empire Day and so witnessed its rise and fall.
    2. Ezra and Kanan are both Jedi, that Yoda is aware of, yet the latter says Luke is the last Jedi in ROTJ -do both of the Rebels main characters die? Maybe, maybe not.
    3. Ezra has a troubled past and is shown to skirt close to the Dark Side
    4. The upcoming episodes show him possibly interact with Maul or another old master of the Dark Side

    Now I heard this info the other day, but then as I say, something else struck me today. Ezra and Leia appear to be the same age and strike up a friendship. What if Ezra falls in love with Leia? But she as we know ends up with Han? What if this is what turns Ezra to the Dark Side? Does it explain why there seems to be an obsession to get Kylo to kill his father yet no mention at all of destroying his mother? Kylo would be more attached to his mother than father, right?

    So how did Snoke sustain his injures? Two theories:

    1) The destruction of Alderaan. He was fleeing but got caught in the blast? Bit silly but an idea!
    2) Darth Vader is in Rebels - maybe he does it to Ezra? Perhaps all this ties in with the Dark Lord?
    3) After Ezra turns Kylo and he kills all the Jedi, Luke goes bat sh** crazy on him.

    Look, I will be honest - it's not a theory I strongly believe in by any stretch of the imagination. For a number of reasons I wouldn't want it to be the case. But, it is an alternative to Plagueis that doesn't contradict and isn't so much of a retcon (as the Rebels has already retconned stuff all over the place along with the CW series!).

    Anyway, there you go. Have fun with that!:eek:

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    Might also explain how Snoke knew Ben Solo had Skywalker blood and was able to get close to Han and Leia (and Ben)....
     
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    the reason this is worth a consideration is that it ties Rebels to the ST in a very concrete way.

    which is why it also makes sense if Benecio Del Toro turns out to be Erza.

    just for branding/continuity this makes sense because right now the ties to the PT are built in with the movie franchise/the Skywalker story, but the ties to Rebels are thin at best. and it does seem a goal of Disney to make sure that all of the current canon is interconnected.
     
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    - How did Ezra know about The Skywalkers ?

    - What's Ezra's path might be to become Snoke ?

    - Also is Ezra like 7 feet tall ? :p
     
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    Crikey, I was hoping someone would shoot this down!
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    Because he knows Leia, she might have confided in him after the events of ROTJ. Or something. Or maybe it is because he didn't know Ben was a skywalker - just Leia's son and he wanted to separate her and Han? I was always confused about how Snoke knew about Ben and went after him from birth.

    Let's see what happens between him and Maul.

    Do we know Snoke is 7ft tall or was there just a load of confusion over the hologram thing and interviews with the cast and crew getting blurred with that?
     
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    I don't think Ezra would be Snoke because the uninitiated audience wouldn't be able to make sense of it. They don't know Ezra, and I think they really won't show anything in the sequels which constitutes 'expanded universe'. The saga movies are self-contained stories, they only function if new characters can be explained by means of the closed universe provided by the other movies. That's just how they function. So even though I think your ideas are original, I think them highly unlikely.
     
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    Phew, #PlagueisConfirmed!
     
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    hahaha ~ does it help at all if i think there's no possible way Snoke is Ezra? the BDT thing is more likely if anyone's going to turn out to be Ezra.

    is Snoke even "human"?
     
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    Well EVERYONE practically said he's really tall in general similar to the original Emperor Concept Art .
     
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    Exactly. That's just how it works. They're not going to something which can only be explained by content which is outside the movies. For a die-hard fan this is perhaps a bit sad, but it is also what makes the saga so appealing to general audiences. It is something they can understand without resorting to thousands of pages of EU canon.

    But on the other hand, the "anthology/a star wars story" movies do offer space for EU stuff. They know these are primarily meant for the hardcore audience.
     
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    Age - Ezra would be 53 or so in TFA time. Snoke appears much older. The whole "born on Empire Day" thing pretty much means that Ezra did not actually see the rise of the Empire; he was born when it formed and wouldn't have had real memories until at least a few years in (unless you're going to do a Leia knows her mom retcon type thing).

    Species - Ezra is a human; Snoke is alien.

    Height - Ezra is short; Snoke is at least 7 feet tall.

    Neal Scanlan, chief of creature and droid effects, told PEOPLE, “This character is much better executed as a CGI character. That’s just a practical reality when he’s 7-foot-something tall; he’s very, very thin.

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    I guess it is still possible but it's better speculation to say Ezra died, or Ezra became Benicio del Toro's character in VIII (although I like the idea of BdT being Thrawn as well).
     
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    No. For the kajillionth time, SNOKE IS AN ALIEN. Ezra is human in spite of having inexplicably indigo hair. Snoke actually witnessed the entirety of the Clone Wars as opposed to just being born when they ended (which, I might also add, would also not be very easy for a day-old infant to remember).

    You'd have an easier time of convincing me that Lor San Tekka is an elderly Kanan Jarrus, or that Rey is Sabine and Ezra's child. But even then, Dave Filoni basically said that he's not stepping on the toes of the writers of the Sequel Trilogy, so that's a moot point. It just isn't going to happen, and with that in mind, it's why Benicio Del Toro will not be playing an older Ezra, either.
     
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    Is Snoke alien? Is he really 7 feat tall. I thought that was just a hologram like the empire, and I see him and think, that is just a really and unnaturally old human being, not an alien for sure.
     
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    Great, i'm being stupid. Lesson learned. Stick with Plagueis. Got it.
     
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    hahaha ~ guess it helps to know something about Rebels! i seriously doubt i will ever watch that show though, so i'm happy in my ignorance.
     
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    yeah
     
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    Don't said that Master.EVERY thread is important...;).
     
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    All the Rebels crew will die on Alderaan, thus solving the problem of not having to reference them or include them in the ST.
     
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    No, he is not. Please stop with these stupid threads. Snoke is a 7 feet tall alien with four fingers on his hands.
    There is also a huge age gap, as Snoke was old enough to witness the rise and fall of the empire (Ezra was only a toddler when that happened).
     
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    Maybe Lor San Tekka is Snoke. :) Didn't Kylo hit him in the head with his lightsaber? Max von Sydow is tall. :)
     
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    Jeez, chill!
     
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