SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

... means that...

... there cannot be. At least if Yoda has anything grammatically to say about it.

That doesn't mean that Luke and Rey together cannot be "the Last Jedi"... but it must end there if they are truly to be the last. Say what you mean and mean what you say and all...

 

I get what you're saying, but the Jedi aren't going to die off. Luke isn't going to fail passing on what he has learned. Imagine a film titled "Return of the Jedi" and then a few episodes later ending the Jedi forever. Not happening.

 

We have better writing in any given show.

Looks like "Plus belle la vie" ...

 

Of course, you may be right... but if that is the case, Episode VIII is not well named. Truth in advertising and all that...

 

You have better writing than a script no one has seen yet? Your precognitive skills are impressive.

 

If this is the plot ...

Not sure I want to read it. My expectations are higher for a story group.

Sounds like a Clone Wars episode with Jar Jar and Padme.

 

You understand that it wouldn't be the plot, right? Just a back story. And that it's not what they are doing, just an idea I threw out there. Or was that the point? Were you just trying to insult me personally? Sorry I don't meet your lofty expectations.

 

Yeah... but that's ignoring the whole "who's her parents" mystery. Why leave it up in the air to end up being, "nobodies", and here's a little aside, a brief back story of these nobodies. Luke being a dad isn't about being "clever" its about what's the next step in the saga? Clearly the next generation HAS to include a strong Jedi, and that clearly isn't Kylo. Even if he turns to the light side.

 

This is an excellent point that often gets overlooked. If Rey's parents are nobodies that died after dropping her on Jakku, then why make a mystery out of their identities? That's just needlessly setting the audience up for a letdown.

 

Rey isn't a Jedi yet. So Luke clearly IS the last Jedi. I'll be stoked if we get a Jedi ghost meeting with Rey, that's like "here's your story Rey" much like Luke on Dagobah in RotJ.

 

I understand your POV and respect it but the vast majority of the movie going audience did come away thinking the movie was pointing to Luke as being her father making it the 'obvious' conclusion from the movie as far as this topic goes.

You have, in a way, suggested she has knowledge by saying she's separating Luke from Rey's parents and that her line is telling Rey that they are dead. If she doesn't have knowledge, she can't know or be telling Rey that they are dead nor can she be said to think the light saber can call to a non-Skywalker. We don't get to know what she's thinking in that scene. If she doesn't know who Rey is, she's probably more likely to think she's a Skywalker because of the light saber than think the light saber is calling to a non-Skywalker.

See, I don't think Rey thinks they're dead but just knows deep down inside that no one is ever going to come to Jakku for her like she has deluded herself into believing all those years. That was her fairy tale coping mechanism that is fairly common with orphans. Dreaming, hoping and, in Rey's case, fervently believing that their parents are out there somewhere possibly looking for them and one day will show up and take them away to a better, happier life.

 

Insults ? Really ?

Not at all.

 

It will be interesting to see how Rey's background is revealed. Someone has to tell her, and if Luke doesn't know, Jedi ghosts would be a likely solution. If she turns out to have come from unremarkable parents with no ties to the Jedi, then the answer won't be on the island - unless being a Force ghost makes you omnipotent, and Obi-Wan didn't seem to be all knowing. It's also unlikely that anyone would come to her with that information if it's so unimportant. That means she would have to go looking for it, which would make it a significant point in the story - and if the answer turned ou to be completely mundane, you would have to wonder why they would spend any screen time looking for it.

The more I think about it, the more improbable it seems that Rey's parents won't at least have some tie to a known character.

 

Maybe the moment in the story wasn't the good one to talk about that. This matter has gone out of control by fans. In the movie ( yeah I know, I talk about what's in the movie ... ) there are two lines about Rey's family. Two lines !!!

The one with BB8 and the one with Maz and that's it. 20 seconds during the whole movie.

Big deal really ? Mystery ? I don't think so.

People were getting mad because of ESB and that's it.

 

If you didn't like my idea, that's perfectly acceptable. And you're more than welcome to say as much. But you made point of doing so in a belittling manner by sarcastically asking "And this is supposed to be deeply satisfying?" Then you followed that up by calling it unworthy of some show you consider to be terrible.

That's you perogotive of course. Perhaps your taste is, in fact, vastly superior to mine. You clearly think so, and you are certainly free to express that in an insulting way - this is the Internet after all. But at least own it.

 

So are you contending, that Rey, a girl with remarkable Force abilities, abilities that over came the grandson of Vader, is just some force sensitive nobody that just ends up getting trained by Luke?

C'mon. The fans aren't out of control... the whole MYSTERY of TFA is, what's her past, who's her parents??? And it's very similar to the familial twists of the original trilogy. These movies don't exist in a vacuum of people who have no connection to the first Trilogy. Just because there isn't some huge discussion about it in the movie doesn't mean it's not part of it. They were purposely vague, teasing the whole topic, dancing around it... Maz is like "who's the girl?" to Han and they cut to Rey talking to Finn and then her scene with Anakin's saber... and she has a force dream that has Obi Wan, Yoda, and Luke all speaking.

 

It's Star Wars. The audience is naturally going to wonder who her parents are, and the writers are smart enough to know that. They intentionally left it as a mystery. And given The comments all three directors have made, they are well aware of that.

 

We're off topic here, but Luke is the last Jedi which makes this title perfectly reasonable. So I'll just have to disagree with your opinion.

Yep, which means the writers can go for another nostalgia based rehash of a lost Skywalker or try to do something more original. Fans will be happy with either outcome if done well, but it won't be much of a twist if Rey is either a Solo or Skywalker.

 

Well, not me, I see Star Wars to have a story about the Force.

I'm not relating everyone to everybody.

The fact that they didn't make any mystery about Ben Solo was a clear signal that they weren't go that way for this saga.

But it's everyone guess to think that they will copy ESB like they copied ANH. If people are ok with that and searching for cuteness instead of a story about the Force, I can't help it.

Star Wars Rebels and Clone Wars have no plot about family relations between the characters and it is very good.

They made a little plot about Ezra's parents in Rebels and then they were dead and everybody moves on.

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Actually 99% of the jedis are coming from nobodies. Nobody ever give a damn about Kenobi's lineage or Ahsoka Tano's parents.

Did you ever wonder who are Kanaan Jarrus's parents ? I'm sure you didn't.

Yoda spoke to Ezra too. Nobody ever pretented Ezra was a Skywalker.

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Now if you're asking me if this is the look of a dad finding his long lost daughter. I will answer no.

 

The saga has been said to be the story of the Skywalkers by both Lucas and Kennedy. The Clone Wars and Rebels aren't saga films, therefore they don't have to have any familial connections.