SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

But if Luke teaches anyone else and they become a Jedi.... he will cease to be the Last Jedi. In which case, I suppose we can have Episode XII - The Rise of the New Jedi, We Were Just Kidding About Luke Skywalker The Last Jedi, or even Episode XXI - The Last Jedi... Once Again, But This Time We Mean It... Maybe.

Both of which are outside of the Skywalker Saga of numbered episodes. The point is the episodic movies are about the Skywalker family saga, not generically about "The Force." You can see it that way if you choose to, but that is not what we have been told. Now whether the Skywalker Saga continues in the new generation solely through Kylo Ren or if... there... is... anoth... er... Sky... walk... er... , such as Rey, remains to be seen.

I personally think with the Episode VIII title reveal as "The Last Jedi" that it is just as likely at this point that Luke and his daughter Rey will together be the Last Jedi and the Skywalker Saga will come to a close.

 

Considering the title, we can assume Luke is a jedi and you know what that implies.

I've read much about "From a certain point of view" but until I see it, I won't believe they changed the lore to please an audience.

 

I really don't understand what you're talking about. The film is about Luke who is the Last Jedi. If more Jedi are trained in the future so what? LOL

 

We talked about that a lot. The last jedi implies that the hero is still Luke and Luke is a Skywalker as Kylo and Leia.

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BTW, There's no limit in speculations.

As soon as the title was revealed, people ask themselves if The Last Jedi was in fact implying that there were others jedis.

What can we do ? I'm not that fluent in english but last means last for me. If you're the last, you're alone.

The last man on Earth is the last man on Earth.

 

The adjective "last" has two meanings in English - final or most recent. So if one says "last night", it usually means the most recent night as presumably there will be another night-time tonight and in the future. On the other hand, the phrase "The Last Supper" means the final supper that Jesus had with his disciples before he was arrested. We will have to see, from the movie, what "last" means in "The Last Jedi".

 

first off.... 'if' you offer me your last beer? there's an 'if' ? i thought we were closer than that!!

The resistance and the FO were searching for the last remaining Jedi.. the TFA crawl called Luke 'The Last Jedi', and to Rey (and i assume most of the galaxy) Luke Skywalker was nothing but myth.

The title is simple, but makes sense assuming that this trilogy is about the completion of the Skywalker ark, and what happens to the Jedi.
We'll have to wait for the trailers and the film itself to come to solid conclusions about the title being weak or strong.

the title doesn't really lend much evidence to who Rey is though.

 

One thing I thought about is that in fact, all the calls to the Force in Ep VII were made by Luke to bring Rey to Acht To. He discovered things in the first jedi temple and he was so strong with the Force that he could have lead her to him without moving.

That means that he was in fact mastering her all along because he needs her to accomplish something he has discover on Acht To, something about light and dark.

I yet don't know what but we will discover this in Ep VIII.

 

that's interesting... and possible no matter who she is.

what if it's more general than that? what if Luke has discovered such power there that he has been influencing the force to bring force sensitives to him? some sort of 'force beacon'.
After the destruction (whatever that means) of his academy, lighting a beacon only sensitives can follow on a remote planet might be the safest way of protecting the Jedi order.

it would certainly explain the expression on his face at the end of TFA..... "wow! it only worked!!!!"

 

Yep but there is the mind trick and the saber calls which could be easily explained if Luke is monitoring the whole thing.

 

No its not, movies keep information from the audience all the time.

In Return of the Jedi we don't see Luke putting his lightsaber into R2 so that it can be a surprise later on

 

maybe i'm having one of those 'in the gutter' days... but i'm glad i wasn't drinking when i read that lol

 

Rehash??? The movies are about the Skywalkers. Not about the Force. Or Jedi. It's like a Shakespearean Tragedy. It's about family. Loss and redemption.

 

Just because the title references LUke doesn't mean its about him

Palpatine isn't the main character TPM. The Clones aren't the main charactesr in AotC. The Sith aren't he main characters in RotS. The Empire aren't the centeral characters in ESB. The Force isn't the focus in TFA etc.....

You clearly haven't seen the TV show.

 

Stick to the original trilogy... A New Hope... yup. The Empire Strikes Back, boy does it ever. Return of the Jedi, look at that, a Jedi!

OF COURSE the Last Jedi will be about Luke and Rey... with 2-3 other side stories going on which merge in the final act.

 

I never said the title will have nothing to do with the film. But the post I was responding too said "The last jedi implies that the hero is still Luke and Luke is a Skywalker as Kylo and Leia"

The titles of these movies don't, for the most part, reflect/tell you who the main character is. While the title is almost certainly a reference to Luke, that doesn't mean Luke will be the hero of the movie or the main character of the movie etc.....

 

both are important plot points that are hidden from the audience for later pay off.

I'm sorry to hear that, logic can be fustrating at times.

We do we need to see Han telling Leia that in TFA? What if they wanted to hold onto that reveal for a later movie? Its the same with Han/Maz - you have Maz ask a leading questino and cut away before Han answers because.......they want to hide the answer.

 

That's not what the titles of the saga films refer to, though, at least in my opinion. It refers to the catalyst of the sequences of most significance in those films: TPM refers to Palpatine, who played both the upcoming Supreme Chancellor and mysterious figure that informed - and likely had a hand in creating - the Trade Federation; AOTC refers to the start of the Clone Wars; Revenge of the Sith refers to the Sith getting their revenge by wiping out all but a few Jedi. Heck, even TFA: the Cosmic Force "awakened" from a thirty year "rest", which in turn "awakened" Rey's abilities.

So yeah, they don't each refer to one specific character, but rather the events in that film.

 

Yes, Luke being hte last Jedi will obviously be a focus of hte film. But Luke won't take over from Rey as the main protagonist or something.