1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

?

Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

    234 vote(s)
    36.2%
  2. No

    288 vote(s)
    44.6%
  3. Undecided

    124 vote(s)
    19.2%
  1. master_shaitan

    master_shaitan Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Posts:
    7,119
    Likes Received:
    10,295
    Trophy Points:
    144,192
    Credits:
    15,738
    Ratings:
    +19,243 / 799 / -292
    Agree to disagree. But a final word would be that it would be jarring at best.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  2. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,365
    Likes Received:
    15,461
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,979
    Ratings:
    +20,604 / 309 / -97
    I agree, there doesn't need to be an explanation. However, there's going to be a reason she's speaking with that accent. Unless the salvaged computer plays some kind of significant role going forward I doubt that's why the actress was coached. It's a deliberate choice for some reason.
     
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  3. Seth

    Seth Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2015
    Posts:
    74
    Likes Received:
    82
    Trophy Points:
    782
    Credits:
    691
    Ratings:
    +136 / 4 / -0
    why do you think everything needs to be explained? and why would an accent need to be explained... who cares
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Wise Wise x 1
  4. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,365
    Likes Received:
    15,461
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,979
    Ratings:
    +20,604 / 309 / -97
    Well, you cared enough to say you don't care. Or something. ;)
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  5. master_shaitan

    master_shaitan Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Posts:
    7,119
    Likes Received:
    10,295
    Trophy Points:
    144,192
    Credits:
    15,738
    Ratings:
    +19,243 / 799 / -292
    People care, at least subconsciously. It's about film convention. If the people show up who Rey was with for the first five years of her life and they don't share the same accent, it will illicit a reaction/question from the majority of the audience.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  6. Ammianus Marcellinus

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Yes pointing fingers and calling names is what we'll be doing :p As my master Sauron said: "I see everything!" You thought those little figures by which we judge other comments were social policing? Then just wait and see what I'll do! :eek:
     
    • Wise Wise x 1
  7. master_shaitan

    master_shaitan Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Posts:
    7,119
    Likes Received:
    10,295
    Trophy Points:
    144,192
    Credits:
    15,738
    Ratings:
    +19,243 / 799 / -292
    I'm going all in on #Reylo #ReyRandom and #Plagueis.
     
  8. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,365
    Likes Received:
    15,461
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,979
    Ratings:
    +20,604 / 309 / -97
    Looks like I have a rating troll for my posts. :)
    The filmmakers made a deliberate choice for some reason. I'm not sure why speculating about this decision in a Rey theories thread is so controversial.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
    • Clouded Clouded x 1
  9. Shadrac

    Shadrac Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2015
    Posts:
    416
    Likes Received:
    314
    Trophy Points:
    1,807
    Credits:
    1,086
    Ratings:
    +816 / 34 / -3
    Again, I don't think her accent was necessarily a deliberate choice nor does the article that @master_shaitan posted a link to qualify as proof she was coached beyond mild tweeking of her normal accent. Also, I don't think this topic is contraversial, I just disagree with you guys.;)
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  10. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,365
    Likes Received:
    15,461
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,979
    Ratings:
    +20,604 / 309 / -97
    I just don't understand why they would coach someone who already has an English accent if not for some purpose.

    From this here site:

    I'm still waiting for you cite where you heard the opposite.
     
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  11. Force238

    Force238 Rebel General

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2015
    Posts:
    332
    Likes Received:
    438
    Trophy Points:
    4,852
    Credits:
    1,358
    Ratings:
    +780 / 7 / -3
    A simple explanation for Daisy being told to speak with a British accent in TFA is that Rey learned her accent from Unkar Plutt, and Simon Pegg / Unkar Plutt spoke with a British accent. FWIW Pablo Hidalgo agreed that is a plausible explanation.
     
    #8091 Force238, Mar 23, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2017
    • Informative Informative x 2
  12. master_shaitan

    master_shaitan Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Posts:
    7,119
    Likes Received:
    10,295
    Trophy Points:
    144,192
    Credits:
    15,738
    Ratings:
    +19,243 / 799 / -292
    Reads like sarcasm to me.
     
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  13. SKB

    SKB Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2015
    Posts:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    3,027
    Trophy Points:
    14,367
    Credits:
    7,046
    Ratings:
    +7,372 / 418 / -298
    Stop saying 'British Accent'. No such thing exists. Please be more specific. "British Accent" is like saying "Scandanavian Accent." !

    Britain is the name of the biggest island of the UK which has three countries on it, England, Wales and Scotland. All three countries have their own accents and dialects, England itself has over 50 very different accents!

    There is no such thing as a 'British Accent' !
    :mad:
     
    #8093 SKB, Mar 23, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2017
    • Wise Wise x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Original Original x 1
  14. master_shaitan

    master_shaitan Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Posts:
    7,119
    Likes Received:
    10,295
    Trophy Points:
    144,192
    Credits:
    15,738
    Ratings:
    +19,243 / 799 / -292
    Tha’ll get a clip rahnd lug’oil if tha’ carries on like this.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  15. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,365
    Likes Received:
    15,461
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,979
    Ratings:
    +20,604 / 309 / -97
    Stop saying 'Southern Accent'. No such thing exists. Please be more specific. "Southern Accent" is like saying "Scandanavian Accent." !

    The South is the southeastern US which has 12+ states and over 100 million people. All 12 states have their own accents and dialects, The US itself has over 25 very different accents!

    There is no such thing as a 'Southern Accent' !
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
    • Unoriginal Unoriginal x 1
  16. Jedihopper

    Jedihopper Rebel General

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Posts:
    607
    Likes Received:
    840
    Trophy Points:
    4,117
    Credits:
    2,018
    Ratings:
    +1,720 / 74 / -14
    I do agree, as much I don't want to fuel "Rey imperial" or "Rey Random" talk...it seems like Pablo was ribbing him a little bit.


    I posted about this in the 3 Planets thread, but it's much better for in here - somebody there said that in the Empires End novel, Leia tells Luke she can sense some darkness in baby Ben...like even before he's born. I was not aware of this!

    It opens up the possibility that Rey's Destiny was sensed by someone (good or bad) while she was about to be born, and she was taken. Or hidden.

    I won't use that to champion ReySky but I do think that it's relevant and opens up a direct line of thought - she was not just abandoned there on Jakku for no reason. (With the Falcon, with the Map to Luke, etc...)
     
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  17. master_shaitan

    master_shaitan Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Posts:
    7,119
    Likes Received:
    10,295
    Trophy Points:
    144,192
    Credits:
    15,738
    Ratings:
    +19,243 / 799 / -292
    I've speculated the same thing. If she is ReySky then it would make sense why Luke would perhaps have hidden his pregnant wife/child. Though I would say that this would've likely been on another planet and she ended up on Jakku for another reason. It could also link into another "pro-ReySky" theory that I have - that Luke agreed to take on Ben because he wanted to find Snoke and deal with the threat. He uses Ben to get to Snoke but it backfires. Ben learns about Luke's wife and is in turn mind probed by Snoke who discovers this secret. This may then explain how Luke's family ends up disappearing or fleeing to (or from) Jakku.

    Having said that, would Luke have had a family after learning about Ben's manipulation? Would he have risked it? I guess we don't know when exactly Luke learned about Snoke. Or it could be that Luke drove his wife away without knowing she was pregnant.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 23, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 23, 2017 ---
    Seems like I was wrong about Leia sensing Han's death:

    Putting a new spin on Leia's reaction to Han's death, Abrams says that even though Kylo sees killing Han as the final step on his journey to the dark side, "the instant that he's done it, he regrets it" — and that this regret is what his mother feels across the galaxy.

    Though I still say she would sense the death (or non-death) of her child (as we see she has a close connection with Ben).
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
  18. Maximus

    Maximus Reel 2 Dialogue 2

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2014
    Posts:
    3,223
    Likes Received:
    72,453
    Trophy Points:
    171,705
    Credits:
    23,798
    Ratings:
    +78,246 / 26 / -13
    a risk to have a family after learning about the manipulation? or a risk NOT to have a family after learning about the manipulation?

    Let's look at things this way..

    If the continuation of the Skywalker bloodline is important to Luke, how would he truly react to news that Snoke has been able to attack Leia/Ben in such a way?

    would he think "I better not ever have a family then, it's too dangerous"
    would he think "If Ben's life goes Piffers up because of Snoke.. the Skywalkers could be no more. I should have a child and hide him/her away from Snoke"

    it all comes down to whether or not you think that he would want the Skywalkers to continue in the future. it's all if's and maybe's
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Wise Wise x 1
  19. Ammianus Marcellinus

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    There is only an 'American' dialect and accent, because yes, only Brits speak proper english!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. DarthPilkington

    DarthPilkington Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2014
    Posts:
    1,289
    Likes Received:
    1,805
    Trophy Points:
    6,937
    Credits:
    4,710
    Ratings:
    +3,237 / 97 / -34
    do you reckon anyone said, "hey wait a second, Jyn's father has a different accent than she does! this doesn't make any sense at all!!"

    i mean, she was orphaned (practically) at a young age. you'd think she' could've picked up on Saw's accent.

    on Daisy being coached to sound a certain type of English, it could have been just to have her sound a bit more like RP and proper. naturally she sounds a lot more conversational and, dare i say, Essex lol

    EDIT: listen carefully to Shmi and you'll find she doesn't share the same accent as Anakin. also, Anakin doesn't pick up Obi-Wan's accent despite spending a lot of time with him at a young age, and on Coruscant no less.

    the accent argument is finicky. it doesn't always work.
     
    #8100 DarthPilkington, Mar 23, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2017
    • Like Like x 2
Loading...

Share This Page