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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  1. DarthPilkington

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    Isn't there an interview where Daisy says Luke doesn't recognize Rey at the end of TFA? Or rather, doesn't know who she is? Something like that...

    Does that bother Rey Skywalker people at all?

    Personally, I still don't care either way lol the new trailer has some pretty, pretty shots and it looks like we're in store for some fun stuff.

    To be honest, I'll likely be stepping away from most spoilers and theories from here on in. I knew about Han and Ben and all that prior to TFA and I think I would rather go into TLJ with an impressionable mind. With how intense that trailer was I feel like not knowing will be a real treat.

    Mtfbwy!
     
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    Daisy saying Luke doesn't know who is Rey make sense with the "who are you?" thing. I remember that some fans were mad at the journalist that posted about this quote. "*** are this guy is talking about? Luke obviously knows that Rey is his baby girl! READ THE SCRIPT!!11"
     
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    The bit in this where Rian stumbles after the interviewer asks if there will be clarification and Rian says: 'It depends on-' it seems like hes about to say 'It depends on what kind of clarification' or something very simmilar and then he stops himself.

    From that I take it he means who she is will be clarified further, but her parentage wont be revealed, I've said this elsewhere but I envision a scene where Her and Luke are sat in his hut and shes staring at him while he cooks or eats or something and after a while she asks

    'Luke, Are you my father?'

    and he kinda laughs it off Yoda style and says 'oh no, I never got round to having kids' or something like that.

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    This would be a clarification but it wouldn't tell us who she WAS only who she WASN'T. which I feel they well play. and a scene like that would be great as she would be asking a Question the audince also asks. which her, Finn and Kylo Ren do a lot, they emulate fans of the origional saga.
     
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    Aaaand. Balanced
     
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    It's so much bigger than that...I know only one truth - it's time for the yes vote...to end.
     
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    Why Rey would ask that in the story ? To be the voice of the fans ?

    It has no sense that a scavenger from Jakku asks an old man she absolutely don't know if she is his daughter.
     
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    No it totally could given what she's been told by Maz and her connection with the Saber, she could easily wonder if he might be her long lost father. I think anyone who's an orphan who is made to go and find someone in a parental role to them could easily find themselves wondering if it might be their dad.

    if we the fans have found enough evidence in Maz's dialog with Rey to speculate that she could be a Skywalker then I think Rey could easily come to the same conclusion.
     
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    Fans found more evidences there than Rey because after the saber scene, she's still figured Solo as the dad she never had ...

    Unlikely much.
     
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    This and what he said about the twists. I think we will get some misdirection at first and then a reveal answering some questions and opening new ones.
     
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    I think they mean that, just like in Empire, parentage is revealed but there's still a mystery as to why/how.

    Personally, I think the twist is given in a manner the reverse of Empire, where the hero (Rey) tells the villain (Kylo) what's up: I am your sister.
     
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    There's no evidence for that. It's the opposite. Maz says her family is never coming back - Han, who would be her father or uncle, is upstairs! Now whether Maz is right or not, the fact is that it is never suggested or implied that Rey is a Skywalker. Maz certainly doesn't think it.

    As I have said for two years, the inference is that her family is dead - that is the most apparent answer.

    Anyway, the nay's have it! The nay's have it!
     
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    yeah, I understand the scene fine. I get that Rey is being told her family aren't coming back, they're gone. thats why she tears up at the speech.

    But I also think as an Orphan who has been mystically guided by the force to fine Luke, she may start to wonder weather maybe he could be her father. As in wishfully wonder.

    and I think it would be totally in context to have her ask him if he was her father and then be told that he 100% isn't. its a bit fan service-y but honesty it makes as much logical sense as the 'Han solo, the war hero? No the smuggler.' bit. How would she have known him as a famous smuggler and not a war hero? it was just playful fanservice. and I can see the Luke-Rey father daughter thing being played with in a similar knowing way.

    I don't think she's his kid but as an orphan looking for a belong I think she might entertain the idea. I think she even kinda did when Han ask's her to join his crew, I kinda think she was wondering if he could be her dad.

    its based on the way we read characters and I read her as someone desperate to belong and someone naive.
     
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    The more I scroll through the pages the more confused I am.thank you.:confused:
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2017, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2017 ---
    What if Rey really is a kenobi and that is the real reason they are doing a Kenobi movie?
     
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    The point is Daisy said she thought it was answered, as in it seems clear. The only thing that could be construed as being clear is that her parents are never coming back. She thought Luke was a myth. She knew Han was a smuggler. Maz says her family is never coming back, which yes reflects Rey's thoughts, but also shows Maz doesn't think Han or Luke is her father (she wouldn't say that if her family was upstairs). So it we're supposed to come away with a reasonably clear idea of who Rey's folks are the most obvious answer is that they're dead and thus not Skywalker's.

    And in top of everything else that has been said over these many many pages, we have Mark Hamill making jokes about Rey being his daughter and confirmation that Luke hasn't the foggiest idea who Rey is when she rocks up with his saber.

    The poll, thankfully, is now reflecting the rational view.
     
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    Today I went from rey skywalker to rey kenobi .i think you are right she is not a skywalker/solo.
     
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    I really really hope that her parents are revealed in TLJ. I can not wait another two years for the answer to be revealed.

    As a Rey Kenobi fan, the fact that they have referenced Obi wan in TLJ trailer gives me hope (pun intended).

    1: shot of Leia, Rey theme, Leia ANH quote 'help me Obi wan, your my only hope'

    2: shot of Kylos mask, Obi Wan quote 'seduced by the Dark Side'.
     
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    Yeah. I don't think she's a Skywalker, nor have I ever done. I'm firmly in the Rey Random camp. And the imagined scenario I was talking about is actually in support of that.

    I just think there could be a really fun (emphasis on fun) if Rey also starts to wonder if Luke's her dad and then confronts him about it and gets told hes not. It could build their characters in ways un-related to the jedi/darkside war. and I think it could add some levity to Rey's character who is often serious.

    Pacing wise I think Rey asking about her family/if shes a skywalker/solo could add a really nice off beat and win her kudoz with an interested audience.

    so what I'm talking about is not about if she's a skywalker. I don't think she is, I don't want her to be. I'm just talking about how do you put said things to bed, how do you connect her and Luke in a deeper way, how do you get some non-training related dialog out of old Luke Skywalker and how do you humanise her slightly.

    and I think a scene where she sees him in a certain light, has a moment of wonder and asks if he is really her secret father and thats why the saber called blah blah.
    to which he should respond 'Lol no, I have no idea who you are.'

    light hearted, my interest in her confronting luke about parentage is based on humanising dialog and light hearted-ness. not conclusions.

    And while it may seem a closed book to you, the nature of Rey's origins (or lack of )get talked about still, and Rian said they would be addressed again in TLJ. so, someones gonna talk about them.
     
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    Even if you don't believe Rey is a Skywalker...that doesn't tell the audience who the character is at all! It's like saying person x isn't a Trump. That doesn't tell you anything, it's not a backstory. The absence of given backstory and the absence of information is not information and backstory.

    By the way, nobody else in the production of TFA and VIII and IX agrees that Rey's identity was revealed in TFA besides Daisy Ridley, who is off in her own NDA'ed little island away from every else on the subject.

    Rogue One answered who Jyn Erso is. That's why it isn't a debate. The Force Awakens did not directly answer who Rey is.
     
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    The thing Daisy is talking about is denying.

    There is 18 months everyone is asking her are you Luke's daughter and we went there too where people are always putting quotes, star wars traditions and we even talked about OFF SCREEN evidences ...

    How far this has gone ? :D
     
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