SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

With all the due respect,
but if it was so obvious.... then why are we at page 429?

 

The homage in the teaser poster only really works if they're all related to each other and the audience doesn't realize it until well after the poster was released. In the case of Star Wars (1977), the movie didn't have a poster until after the movie was out IIRC what happened with that.

 

Even if not dna related they are in a tangled mentor-apprentice-enemy relationship.

 

Rian Johnson: “<nods> Go ahead and run with [red is the symbol of blood in basic human nature — but blood can stand for violence or family. Maybe both, in some cases.]” (April 14, 2017)

 

Rey isn't Luke's daughter...she IS Luke.

More fun theory time.

Rey is the pure essence of Luke's light side.
Snoke is the pure essence of Luke's dark side.
What is left of Luke is the grey.

In the comics, Adam Warlock took control of the Infinity Gauntlet becoming the most powerful being. In order to make sure it would not be used incorrectly, he purged the goodness from him and the evil, creating the Goddess and the Magus.

Luke, did very much the same.

Not really. But why not have some fun for the last few months

 

I think there is much duplication in these 429 Pages.

 

Mine is more funny: she's Anakin mother.

 

I've been at Celebration the past few days. Just got home today. Nice to see some things haven't changed. People are drawing conclusions from a poster and not the fact the after the 40th anniversary of Star Wars that The Last Jedi poster would look like the icon poster from the first move 40 years ago.

So anyway... what has changed? Not much the past 3 days.

- It's weird of Hamill keeps making the daughter joke. Seems like he'd just avoid it altogether if it was true.
- Daisy says Luke doesn't know her. That's not really news, but some have speculated that Luke knew her.
- Kennedy reveals that Leia isn't in IX. I think this is the nail in the coffin of Rey Solo. MSW has said Luke will not reunite with Leia. Rey is going to be with Luke in The Last Jedi so it's unlikely Rey is going to see Leia again. Making Han/Leia her parents would be a bizarre story choice if they're both gone by the last film.

Trailer was great at not revealing anything. The Force Awakens misled us about Finn being a force user (although that could change). The "Jedi must end" things sounds like a misdirection as well. Also, Hammil says he did voice work for the trailer so who knows if that line is even in the movie.

 

I think its funny Daisy thinks the answer is obvious.
Its only obvious to her because she knows the answer.
I am sure it will be obvious in retrospect but that is confirmation bias.

 

Welcome back. I hope you had a great time at Celebration

I agree.

 

OMG MARK HAMILL HEHEH he is a pro!

 

Rian Johnson: "Well, I think sort of by necessity 'yes' [there is an impulse to 'echo' the middle chapters of the previous Star Wars trilogies like George Lucas did] just because it's a middle chapter of a three part story. And so it's gonna be the one where you slow down a little bit and kind of dig into the characters and figure out, ok, you've had this spectacular set up. You've met these characters [and] you care about them. This is the part where we kind of define them so that [in] the closing chapter you care about where they end up. So, because of that by necessity there are some things that are gonna definitely gonna be echoes of what happens in one of the best middle chapters of all time, you know, The Empire Strikes Back. But, it's also I think hopefully wholly unique because these are different characters than there were in Empire and they're on different paths and they're in different places in their lives, so." "[Answering some questions and bringing up new questions in The Last Jedi - will it create more questions than answers?] Well, I don't know. I hope that they're satisfied [in terms of answering some the lingering questions from The Force Awakens] but I also, you know, that the least interesting thing in the world I think is just, 'here's the answer to your question,' sliding the piece of paper over. But at the same time, the goal was never to, you know, 'let's draw up more mys...more questions!' You know, so...put it this way - I hope that it's emotionally satisfying. That's always the goal for me and so it's never to kind of play coy and kind of toy people along. It's always about what's gonna be emotionally satisfying and what's gonna make sense for these characters." "[Mark Hamill], I know - he's awful [with teasing people]! He's the worst, oh my god, Mark Hamill!" <laughs> (April 15, 2017)

[QUOTES] J. J. Abrams and the Original Trilogy Structure

Rey and Kylo Ren.

 

The more and more I think about it, the more confusing the idea of her being related to someone or not becomes.

From my point of view, currently, she's either a Skywalker or someone completely new.

It would be a cop out to have her be a Solo after her and Han meeting without either acknowledging each other before Han's death, in my opinion, and would follow too closely to Legends for me - or others - to be comfortable with.

I hate the Kenobi theory with something of a passion (more so than the odd job Snoke theories), and as things stand, I can only see this happening if it goes against almost everything the character has stood for and how one would react to the events he's been put through in the last 40 years, across all canon media.

Her being a Skywalker just makes sense, from some points of view: whilst Ben is technically a Skywalker, it would be odd to not have the hero/ine of the trilogy to not be a Skywalker - by name - for the first time in 40 years. These films are as much about family as they are anything else, and continuing the Skywalker lineage - by name - is one of the vital components to the trilogies we've had to date. There are plenty of ways this could be used in a smart way for storytelling, too. Another thing is that, as we know from the novelisation of TFA, Snoke tried to persuade her to kill Kylo and join him. As we learned earlier in the book, Kylo is said to be the perfect balance of Light and Dark, so why would Rey be the option he chose, if given the chance, over Kylo? We all know just how strong the Force is in the Skywalker family: if Rey is the daughter of Luke, it could make sense that she's at least as powerful as Kylo when it comes to Force potential.

Lastly, though, she could be someone new, or related to someone completely new. I mean, imagine if Luke alludes to her parents being Dark Siders who he killed, when in fact Snoke is revealed to be her father, and that's why he called for her to kill Kylo and join her, for example? What if she's some odd clone/midi-chlorian manipulation?

 

From listening to Johnson's remarks over the weekend regarding Rey's parentage, I think we are going to walk out of theater not 100% sure of the answer (He alluded to how fans speculated after ESB whether Vader was lying to Luke and the debate went on until 1983).

 

430 pages. Cool!

When you seed such an important mystery, I think the less satisfying answer would be a too elavorated one. This trilogy is all about emotion and more emotion. JJ said so, Ryan says so. Therefore, it would be quite contradictive if:

- Rey is a clone
- Rey isn't a Skywalker

Plus it's a space soap opera (Lucas says)
Plus it's the Skywalker saga (KK says)

The confusing force back and the lack of information about Luke in the first film makes quite clear to me that part of Luke's backstory will be related to Rey. In fact, Rey, Luke and Kylo are the involved characters in such force back, with Obi and Yoda participating as "viewers", as they have already done before. Now we got this teaser poster: again, the three of them. The Skywalkers.

It remains to answer whether Rey is Luke's or Leia's daughter, but Daisy says in her opinion that was already answered in VII. For me, it was indeed answered:

- Skywalker saber calls to her
- A vision appears featuring the other two Skywalkers and her.
- If it wasn't enough, Maz comes and says "it was Luke father's saber, then it was Luke's saber and now is calling to you!"
- Then Maz says "the belonging you are seeking is not behind you, is ahead" then Rey says "Luke"
- Then when Kylo tries to pick his family saber Rey actually takes it and they fight.
- Then she brings the saber to Luke.

Do you really think Luke and Rey's backstory won't be perfectly tied in?

 

I'm the opposite, Rey Kenobi is my favourite theory, although my brain says Rey random, or in other words, not a Skywalker, Solo or Kenobi.

I don't hate Rey Skywalker, but the way it is currently set up would make me yawn at that reveal and stir very little emotion. If she was going to be a Skywalker, i believe we should have known from the start, place more emphasis on the other mysteries in the ST. I wouldn't mind her being adopted into the Skywalker family, especially if she is Rey random.

The multiple references to Obi wan Kenobi in the TLJ trailer does give me renewed hope as a Rey Kenobi fan. I just hope, whatever the outcome, it is good and it is answered in the TLJ. I do not want to wait another two years to find out.