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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

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  2. No

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  1. FN-3263827

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    i'm not putting money on anybody at this point, because i still think whoever Rey's parents are we might not even ever see them, but the description of BDT's character certainly is intriguing. and does fit the potentially "former Imperials" theory.

    we're just left with the same set of question, like why was she abandoned on Jakku?

    i still think Rey's family is dead, possibly at the hands of the New Republic / old Alliance / new Resistance.
     
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    I do.
     
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    "Not if you cheat" - Shmi Skywalker :O :p
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    so you too, 1500 credits. I bet she's Luke's daughter, you think she's not? Ohhhhh I'm gonna be stinking rich.....:p
     
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    Maybe Luke didn't want to deal with the kid going through puberty thing . I'm dealing with that now and it's quite the headache
     
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    All in buddy.
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    Maybe.

    Maybe we'll have Adam Sandler in Ep VIII too. Who knows.
     
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    It's been over two months since The Force Awakens and there's nothing new to add to this question. We know very little about Rey and Luke's past so that pretty much makes any theory is viable. It seems unlikely Luke placed Rey on Jakku. Since that's the case even if Rey is his daughter isn't it safe to say that Luke may not know who she is when she comes to see him?

    There's a lot of different ways this could go. What if Rey's mom had a history with Luke that she hid for the next man in her life? What if she hid her child with Luke from Luke and from her next husband by giving the baby to her sister/friend/etc. What if this fact comes to light in the third act of the next film? We can speculate about this forever, but Rian Johnson could go in a lot if different directions.
     
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    Since this is my first time that I am considering betting on I'm going to bet on del Toro being rey's father with ties to the empire|FO|KoR giving a dark origin for Rey. I will wager...800 credits if it isn't that but if it is say half and half I'll throw an extra 200 on top of 800 to equal 1000...


    If I am right then someone will have to pay me either way 800 if its half and half or 1000. Whatever and how this works...let me know :p
     
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    If Snoke has felt the awakening so do Luke. He doesn't know Rey personnally, he just knows the force awakened in her.

    That's the point of the movie which title is ... The Force awakens not the Force was hidden and abandonned. And if it awakens, it means it wasn't there before in Rey.
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    You doesn't have the money buddy, you need to find a hutt to loan you but be carfeul not to end in carbonite :D
     
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    Lol by the time VIII comes out I'll have lots if credits then.
     
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    I already addressed this and don't feel this question needs answering at all because it's only something you have to ask if you've made a lot of other assumptions. We don't know how she ended up on the planet. I sincerely doubt that Luke had anything to do with it, I would say it's far more likely he thought she was dead and that's why he was driven to the point that he completely disappeared. It's a nice bit of dramatic irony that Rey initially believes him to be a myth and it turns out she's the one person who can remind him of how important he is to the galaxy and get him to return to the fight and he's the person she's really been waiting for out on Jakku the whole time.

    Do you realize how much the story of TFA falls apart if there's no family connection between her and Luke? I don't think any of you that are arguing against it are really thinking straight, missing the forrest for ultimate fan fiction fantasies really.

    The whole movie is really about finding Luke Skywalker and this becomes the personal journey for only one character and that is Rey. It specifically becomes her personal journey because the lightsaber calls out to her, she's obviously the next in line to receive Excalibur and she still has her personal mission to reunite with her family. If she's not fulfilling that character specific mission at the end, that mission uniting with the original cause in the story then the whole entire premise of The Force Awakens is weak and hollow.

    I'd bet hard cash that a lot of these same people that just can't accept, or even strongly consider that Rey is Luke's daughter probably thought Finn was the Jedi hero of the new series and still have a hard time letting go of whatever they thought this movie was going to be.


    Nah bro, I'm not trying to be rude. It's very weird. It's like the most obvious thematic elements, character arcs and even the basic premise of the film were completely lost on you.

    I genuinely feel like we watched completely different movies and I can't relate to you at all on this.

    And I'm sorry it's not just you and don't take this personal, but I'm telling you our difference in opinion here is not because we're simply interpreting the same scenes differently it's because your interpretation of some of those scenes is actually not correct. You've stated twice here that you feel the scene with Maz after the vision is somehow spelling out that Rey's family is dead and she needs to let go and move on, this is not at all reflected in the movie, it's beyond misinterpreting the scene to inventing things that just didn't happen. Do I need to repeat the dialogue for you?

    Maz specifically tells Rey that what she's looking for lies ahead of her, of course it's no coincidence that Rey's personal goal in the movie (her sole ambition is to return to Jakku and continue waiting for her family) ends up being one and the same as the original point that sets the movie off, finding Luke Skywalker. Rey is the key to all of this. She's the only person ultimately capable of making it happen, she's only willing to make it happen when there's clearly no other options. Even someone with the most rudimentary understanding of story telling should have picked up on all this, they practically telegraphed it to the audience without holding your hand through it but trusting you to understand it.

    You call it suspicious? No man that's called good writing.

    My recommendation? Watch the movie a few more times. If you can't afford another ticket download a pirated copy.
     
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    I don't care is she's Luke's family or not. I mean really. It's a big galaxy.

    This is called nostalgia nothing more.
     
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    More condescending than rude, but anyway...

    Let me just say I've likely watched the film as many times as you have and leave it at that.

    Anyway, you haven't really attempted to answer my point about Maz. She is supposed to be the wise mentor of th film. And she clearly tells Rey that her parents aren't coming back BUT that there is someone that could. This explicitly means that Maz doesn't believe Luke is Rey's father and essentially tells her so.

    Now of course Maz isn't to know from experience that Luke is Rey's father but by saying he is not she will looked damned foolish if he turns out to be her father.

    The facts are:

    Han doesn't think Rey is Lukes daughter. Kylo doesn't suggest it. Leia doesn't pick up on it. Then when Luke and Rey face each other nothing in that scene suggests they are long lost father and daughter seeing one another again.

    People keep peddling the idea that Rey was hidden from Luke. And that this is part of his grief. Or that he thought her dead. Yet the novel explains how he knows why she has arrived on Ahch-To. And he just turns around and looks at the saber. I'd expect more than that. Same with Rey. If everything is pointing towards Luke being her dad, and that the Maz scene is about that then wouldn't Rey put 2 and 2 together as well? Would she feel nothing upon seeing Luke? And again, you could explain away not knowing his name but it sounds like she definitely once knew her father as she talks of her family coming back to Jakku. So wouldn't she recognise him?

    The whole Rey is like Anakin/Luke thing is compelling but to be honest it's not proof. Rey is simply the archetype Star Wars hero. The hero who is a no one on an insignificant planet. A being with exceptional skills. I mean if we were told before TFA that the new hero wouldn't be Lukes daughter, what would we expect her character to be like? I'd suggest exactly what we see - the relatable no one who seeks a better existence.
     
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    If it's true that Rey has a lot in common with Anakin, she has nothing in common with Luke, I mean, people who wants her to be her daughter are referring to KK's quotes but nothing in the movie.

    Look at this movie if it was the 1st Star Wars ever and there is absolutely nothing that leads to Luke.

    The opening scenes suggest that she's from the dark side and everything else refers to Anakin ... not Luke.
     
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    someone on tumblr posited that Rey can't possibly be a Skywalker because she never whines.

    it's a joke, of course, but a good one (and there is some hilarious truth in that).
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    right???

    i knew we'd find the evidence to finally convince you ~ hahaha

    ; D
     
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    she is naive though..........at some point in the movie..........just like Luke. :p
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    hehe power converters, sure hehe......like he wants to go there to pick something up like.....hehe
     
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    pick up something all right, something like Leia.
    you know: if Rey had an obvious crush on Kylo Ren maybe that would make her obviously a Skywalker.

    hahaha ~ okay, now i'm just being tacky. sorry.
     
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    Haha...I love it. And it's funny...but I'm trying think where in TFA she may have whined...hmmm I dunno maybe when she is trying to not oh wait...a min..."stop taking my hand!" :mad: ... :rolleyes:;)
     
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    "You will remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open"

    "why am I here?"

    "stop taking my hand"

    "I know how to run without you holding my hand"

    "I don't want to have anything to do with this"

    "Finn! We have to help BB8 get to the resistance base!"

    :p

    not really whiny though but its close :D
     
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