SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

They cut Luke for TFA because he stole every scene he was in just because he was Luke Skywalker. They couldn't do anything with the characters they wanted to introduce because of it. That's literally what happened. We got a taste of that in TLJ with Rey's character development being overshadowed by Lukes. The story became about his problems, which meant they had to give him serious problems, a reason to be on an Island, a reason he didn't take down the First Order to begin with, etc. etc. etc. Hence Grumpy Luke.

As for Rey's set up in TFA, you saw what you wanted to see. People asked "who's the girl" and you (and to be fair, me and most others) heard "who's her daddy." Because we assumed that all the new characters would be children of the characters from the OT. Because that's what the EU gave us in the next generation with 3 Solos, a Skywalker, 2 Horns, etc. etc. Right up there with everyone asking "is Finn Lando's kid?" because he's black.

If you think about it, we have exactly as many children of Legacy characters as we need. The only reproductive couple we saw in the OT was Han and Leia. Great. We have their kid. That's enough. Everyone else can just be who they are. Giving Rey famous parents would do absolutely nothing for her character development. It might give her a background, but it would offer no path forward. Character development requires a challenge, and having a powerful parent does not qualify. She hasn't earned her place as a Jedi yet....... but having her inherit it cheapens Jedi status just as much as her being good at it just because she is.

Rey, moving forward, has to establish for herself who she is. No inheritance. No Passing of a Torch. She has to light her own. She has the books to learn what it means to be a Jedi. Now she can define the rest of it herself. That may end up being even harder than being taught.

 

Disagree. The ST is as much about Kylo's journey as it is about Rey's. To say that a charachter with powerful parents has no room for character development or path forward is un true. Not just in general but speciffically in the sequel trilogy as well.
I believe this is an official SW publication.

That description is pretty much true for Kylo...and Finn...and Poe...and LOL the broom kid too

 

No Finn being Lando’s kid would be stupid and I would absolutely hate that.

I assumed Rey was Luke’s kid because that stupid lightsaber called to her for no reason other than to have a nostalgia callback to earlier and better movies. BUT, I did not expect her to be a Skywalker and I would have been okay with her being anyone. I had a problem with the way it was handled and I thought it was executed poorly.

Rey was not well developed in my opinion. She doesn’t really learn anything about being a jedi, so when Luke says I will not be the last jedi, that moment came off really flat. What exactly did she do to earn that title? Because she just stole the jedi texts and flew away?

Making Luke a supporting character in the TFA would have been better because you get him out of the way to focus on other new characters in the movie. Instead, they have spent two movies about the absence of Luke. Making Luke a side character would be like in Creed, it’s not his story anymore.

 

You misunderstand me. I wasn't making a general or blanket statement. I said that giving Rey famous parents would do nothing for her character. Kylo Ren has famous parents. They gave him a path forward in killing Han Solo. Ideally, he'd have a confrontation with Leia, but I don't think that will happen (whole other thread on that though). That said, he has directions to go without her as well, so he'll manage. Luke's Father defined his entire character arc. Which was good, but we don't need a rehash of that story thank you.

I said what I said about Rey because people seem convinced that her entire value to the plot hinges on whether or not she's someone or other's daughter. Frankly, having Obi Wan or Luke be her daddy wouldn't do anything for her moving forward. It's not such a thing would limit her, but it wouldn't offer anything. Having her parents be absolutely nobody makes her confront her fears (being alone, not belonging anywhere), create a space for herself, and establish herself without anyone else doing it for her. It's much more powerful.

Huh, I assumed Rey was Anakin Skywalker reincarnated when the Lightsaber had a stronger reaction to her than it ever did for Luke. Actually, could still be true but I doubt it.

She isn't a Jedi yet...... It's pretty much a given that she'll become one. Good thing we have a whole movie to finish the job, huh.

You're missing the point. Luke didn't work as a supporting character. He automatically became a main character because he's Luke-Frickin-Skywalker. They just turned into the skid with TLJ.

 

Suffers at the hands of Kylo Ren. No she just gets captured and then outdoes him in the mind game. We don’t see what she did differently, she just tries harder I guess.

There’s no explanation to her powers. They don’t dramatize it

It’s not about whether her parents are famous so and so’s as it is about how the story told it. I am saying the execution is weak.

I think the story of this trilogy is very muddled. That’s just my opinion. The problem is we haven’t seen Rey go through much trials for her to earn that “last jedi” title. She goes to Luke and he teaches her one thing. The force belongs to everyone, we already knew that. We knew that Skywalkers weren’t the only powerful force wielders. She spends most of the time on the island begging to be taught and then leaves. Yes she sees the dark side cave but she doesn’t have any growth with Luke. She basically says f*ck you to Luke and then leaves after he refuses.

Also the idea that she looked up to Han is ridiculous. She spends five minutes with him and then we are supposed to believe that he’s father she never had?

Luke would work as a supporting character if it was in the first movie, just like Obi-Wan in a New Hope. You wouldn’t be debating it if they developed Rey’s story properly. It’s all about execution.

 

Snoke explains her powers just fine. The Force reacted to Ben's fall.

Like I said, she isn't a Jedi yet. Just as Luke wasn't a Jedi when Yoda died. Yoda told Luke he wouldn't be a Jedi till he faced Vader. Yoda also said "after I am gone the last of the Jedi will you be." Still worked. Rey isn't a Jedi yet. She will be, and as such Luke won't be the last Jedi.

Again, you aren't paying attention. They tried to make Luke a supporting character and it failed. You can't say that it would have worked when they tried it and it failed. You'd have the exact same problem that you have with Rey in the Last Jedi, but you'd have had it in the movie that introduces her. Just to drive this point home, here's a JJ Abrams quote: "“It just felt like every time Luke came in and entered the movie, he just took it over. Suddenly you didn’t care about your main character anymore because, ‘Oh f–k, Luke Skywalker’s here. I want to see what he’s going to do.’”

Also saying that it could work because it worked for Obi-Wan fails to take in the obvious fact that when A New Hope released we didn't have a clue who Obi-Wan was. The same cannot be said for Luke Skywalker.

I'm debating it because you didn't like her story development. I don't have any problem with it yet because it obviously isn't finished.

 

Rey needs mythology-based explanation of her powers.
Star Wars needs original magic back.

Rey Skywalker delivers it.

We can hope Disney has realised this after the ep. VIII's unsuspecting reception.

 

No I have been paying attention. Just because Abrams struggled with it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work. This is just my opinion. Even Mark Hamill has disagreed with the direction. The reason why I think it was a mistake is because the film didn’t have a consistent story and was a series of movie references once they left Jakku.

The light rose within her is vague meaning. He is the dark side and she is the light side. That does not explain how she can do everything without much training. Luke at least trained. And if that’s the real reason why she’s able to do anything then I’m sorry but that’s just a cop out.

 

Disney refers to this sequel trilogy as part of the "Skywalker Saga", it gets special treatment to the point it gets a crawl and the whole works. It really doesn't make sense if you take a strange detour after 6 films. It would pretty horrible to end the Skywalker line with Ben turned Kylo then he's defeated. I'm still in the undecided department as I feel that there are more twists in store for us in episode IX.

 

Because it's a little vague.

 

The force is supposed to be vague.
When it's not, you get midichlorians

 

I don't believe them anything announcing anymore. I learned my mistake.

 

JJ knew the answer as the film was in production. People complained that TFA was too much like A New Hope and now people are upset that the hero isn't related to someone like Empire Strikes Back. Seems like a no win situation.

This was beaten to death over the last two years as the smoking gun as to why Rey was a Skywalker. It never made sense to me. Han Solo, Luke, Leia, and Ben Solo are all related. Why does Rey also have to be related? The hero doesn't have to be a Skywalker. The hero of the PT wasn't a Skywalker.

 

The main character of the PT was a Skywalker. He was a tragic character. A debate can made that obi-wan is the real hero but the main character was focused on Anakin.

Abrams clearly didn’t know who Rey was. Rian Johnson himself admitted that there was no over arching plan. None.

Go ahead, say the OT wasn’t all well planned out but each film actually built off of the other. Were there some flaws? Yes, but there was a cohesive vision. Luke’s journey to being a jedi and into adulthood was a well articulated.

Abrams didn’t know where the story was going that’s why he threw so many mystery boxes in there, like why Leia hugged Rey, the lightsaber from 1980 calling to Rey, Max von Sydow for thirty seconds, mysterious figure Snoke, “who’s the girl,”

Abrams does this in almost every movie or show he’s made, look at Into Darkness, Super 8, Lost.

So yes, when you throw all these big mysteries and don’t provide satisfactory answers in episode 8 of a 9 part saga, people are going to get irritated and feel cheated. You cannot treat Snoke like he’s the Emperor in the OT when he’s supposed to be an ancient force user who’s been around, especially in the 7th installment of a saga. There has to be some context or explanation of his motives other than carbon copy of Emperor but less appealing.

So when your main lead in the final trilogy to this “skywalker” saga has a mysterious past, you start to wonder “who is Rey?”

I have said I don’t care if she was related to anybody or not. She could have been related to Admiral Piett for all I care, I just wanted a story that made sense with a clear direction. With this trilogy, there is no cohesive vision. The dynamics of these characters are not clear the way they were in the OT. That’s my big problem. It’s muddled story.

 

He said hero. Not main character. They are not the same thing.