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SPECULATION Is Luke's location the burning village night scene?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by film3ditor, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. film3ditor

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    In reference to the shot of Luke with R2 we've all seen - does anyone else notice a similarity between the night shots of the village burning / Captain Phasma walking / Kylo Ren's ship landing and the shot of Luke (most notably the environment around him - which seems to show burning embers like the other shots from the village)???

    I've been curious if anyone else has thought of a possible relation...?
     
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    The same thing struck me when I saw the two shots together.

    I doubt it, though. The Kylo/First Order segments is quite early in the film, isn't it?
     
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    Welcome to the Cantina!

    There's been lots of speculation about that peppered across several conversations over the past six months, so you've definitely hit on a hot-button topic. I don't think it's been made its own thread before, though, so here we go.

    Personally, I don't think this is the burning village on Jakku.

    I think that he is looking at the ruins of his Jedi academy. It, too, is burning, which is why we see the similar lighting and embers. This is a flashback, so it's not the same place.
     
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    This has been a leading assumption since the realease of the second teaser trailer in April.
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    Yes, what @jmjawors said ;)
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    These two shots convinced a lot of people that it is basically the same scene. (I'm far from sure myself, however).
    KYLO.jpg LUKE.jpg
     
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    I'll be honest (and obvious) I haven't dug too much into the forum yet - that being said, it's nice to know other's noticed the similarity...

    It almost felt to me like Luke is relaying a message (or gathering one) from R2 (not that I know this to be possible) before being confronted with an attack of some sort....

    AH!!
     
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    Didn't some behind the-scenes-stills show
    that this scene was filmed in the Jakku village set? Although if they are going to use real fires a desert would be a safe place in which to do that, and a night scene could probably be filmed anywhere.
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    But it's interesting to me that a lot of important things just seem to happen on Jakku, which is kind of remarkable for such a godforsaken place. Either Rey has some magical magnetic pull of which she is unaware, or there are a LOT of coincidences going on here.
     
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    I don't think so...
    The scenery has some significant differences.
    Behind "Luke" is a lot of boulders, noticeably absent from the Jakku Village scenes.

    Also look at the ground from the village... it's a very sort of loose sand/dirt.
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    Now compare to the set from Luke's scene:

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    Luke is on more solid ground with lots of rocks.
    Also look behind the cameras (where you can see one of the village huts). The sand is a different colour and there are piles of excess sand with bits of grass and weeds sitting around the place, making that area useless for filming the village.
    I believe we're actually looking at two different sets in this image. The "back" of the Jakku village set, and the funeral pyre set where Luke is.
    There even appears to be a bit of a pathway cleared between the two sets so crew can move through them. Just look at how things behind JJ are sitting lower. There is a very clear dip.

    So no, I don't believe Luke is anywhere near the village.
     
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    Many share your thoughts including me. The threads move pretty quick sometimes so you may have missed this topic.

    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet....n-during-the-i-have-it-scene-with-artoo.2558/
     
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    yeah it is possible.
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    I thought The two shots (kylo burning a village And Luke & R2) were from the same local since the second teaser. I think it would be a strong opening to the movie, we need never even see luke's face, Just hear that the knights or ren are after the jedi/artifact/ master skywalker. It would also get rid of the idea of a 'flashback' if it was the opening scene, as it would essentially be taking place within the correct chronological order.

    However I think the general consensus is that kylo would be too young to be directly involved in luke's exile. Which i think is accurate. But perhaps Jakku/desert village is where luke was already 'exiled' to, in hiding to train jedi, but Phasma or Kylo tracked him down, and that's where the film starts. So Luke might have been absent from the resistence/new order fight for years already. And Kylo burning the village would force Luke into a deeper solitary hiding, ala ben Kenobi. This could also make for a cool scene where Rey/Finn/Han go and search the burned village for traces of the Jedi/ Luke.

    Its all vastly speculative. but the Star Trek reboot by abrams featured that opening scene where Kirks dad died.....and I think showing luke losing his pupils/ home right at the start and fleeing with R2 would make for a good emotional opening along the same vein. and it would echo when his home on Tatooine was burned in episode IV, and that would be an incredible foreshadowing/ mirroring.
     
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    I don't know what's wrong with my quote button today, but I like @Maximillian 's idea that the scene would be an echo of what happened to Luke's home on Tatooine. It certainly could be even if it isn't at the start of the movie. Poor Luke.

    In fact, do we know where his Jedi school was? Maybe he put it on Tatooine, he's certainly quite familiar with that place, and one would think he'd want to put it somewhere out of the way and secure- maybe even at Obi-Wan's place. No one (living) knows he's from there except a few members of the old Rebel forces.

    If it were on Tatootine, the scene would be doubly sad.

    Plus, then there'd be a reason why Jakku looks just like Tatooine. Because it is!
     
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