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Is Rey Leia's and Force's daughter?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Sparafucile, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. Sparafucile

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    So Leia follows in her grand mothers foot steps. (thanks Dr.Jerone)

    Kylo and Rey are half siblings, which explains Kylo's seeming familiarity.

    Han and Leia broke up before because Han didn't buy Leia's story that she just got pregnant (It would be hilarious to see that re-enacted actually).

    Rey was trained by Leia and later Luke at the academy, but was removed, either because of jealousy from Kylo, Lukes fears of Kylo or something completely different. Either way, she wasn't there when Kylo turned, that's why she survived.

    Leia recognized her and hugged her in TFA because she recognized her daughter.

    Rey is both another chosen one and has had some rudimentary Jedi training, explaining her skills and powers on two levels.

    If something like this is true, I'd have to completely review my opinion about this trilogy.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    I could do without another immaculate conception story line, but at least that would explain why Rey is so powerful in the force without training
     
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    Just her grandmother not great grandmother.

    Also, please no not again.
     
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    So could I, but considering it is part of SW canon regardless, I could swallow my lima beans a second time :)

    I can just see that Han and Leia interaction.

    Han comes back from a year long mission as a general of the Republic against the remnants of the Empire.

    Han: Hi Princess, I'm home.
    Leia: Han, we have to talk.
    Han: Did you gain weight?
    Leia: I'm pregnant... wait Han, just listen!
    Han: It was Lando, wasn't it! Is that who you like? That's fine, I understand, I'll get out of the way!
    Leia: No, Han, it isn't what it looks like!
    Han: So you're not pregnant? Maybe I need a committee to tell me how this works? I've been gone over a year Leia!
    Leia: It was the Force!
    Han: Oh yeah? I can handle you kissing your brother before you knew better, but come on Leia, he's your brother!
    Leia: No, this had nothing to do with Luke! Would you just listen to me you nerf herder!
    Han: Leia, I don't know what you want anymore. What do you expect? I'm gone a year and you're pregnant. That's all I need to know! (into his comm) Chewie, prep the Falcon, we're leaving!
    Leia: Will you just stop and listen to me!
    Han: I'm out of here "your highness". You can sweet talk yourself out of a lot of things, but this tops it all. (into comm) I don't care what's not working on the Falcon, I want it primed and ready when I get there... and Chewie, get ready to punch it!

    Kylo hears the exchange and learns to hate his father.
     
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    I also think Rey's origin needs farther explanation to justify her abilities but this idea seems to introduce a lot of inconsistencies while also tarnishing Luke and Leia's characters even more.
    I think Rey being Leia or Luke's daughter while improbable is still a possibility but it needs to be unknown to all family members. Maybe Leia was told she lost a daughter at birth but she was hidden by someone(maybe Tekka) or maybe Luke had a romance and he was never told she had a daughter.
    Or maybe her mother was nobody from Jakku and she was conceived by the force, which turned her husband to drinking and led to Rey's abandonment.
     
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    This!

    No sorry, it would be......corny.
    The thought wasn't bad though, She could still be a child of the force, just....not be related to the Skywalker/Solo family.
    But hey, keep hoping, maybe we got it all wrong.
     
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    I don't know how it would tarnish Luke, Leia or Han.

    I think almost anyone can relate to Han, who would believe that story? Even if Han comes to the conclusion that the Force exists (we know he does in TFA, but who knows where, when and how he comes to terms with this), that's miles away from believing that the Force can impregnate his GF or wife.

    Leia's a single mom of a Chosen One and force sensitive boy and also has a brother who's a Jedi master. She's also a near revered hero of the republic, former princess of a destroyed planet, general of the new republic. How much time can she really devote to her child. Besides, they'll be with their uncle. What's better, 2 force sensitive kids, one a chosen one, in the spotlight of the galaxy and media, or have them safely secluded learning how to control their powers by the one person in the galaxy who can relate and has had Jedi training?

    As for Luke, he's faced with the dilemma that Kylo is going dark and his rage is focused on Rey for making his dad leave and everything that's happened afterward. Luke chooses to whisk Rey away with a trusted friend (maybe Lando) and hopefully he can still reach Kylo before it's too late. Luke has the intention to get back to Rey, but soon after she leaves, they inexplicably lose contact with Lando (or whoever) and Rey vanishes. Maybe Luke even tries to find her, abandoning Kylo at a crucial part of his training adding to reasons why he turns to the dark side only to cut his search short because he hears of Kylo's growing darkness.

    Everything seems justifiable or understandable from a human perspective, I think anyways.
     
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    Rey is not Leia's daughter, because it undermines the meaning of Rey in TLJ. The cave scene is based on Rey's independence, on the basis that Rey is a proxy for the logic of anti.

    Rey is reflection

    Reflection copies original, but original is provoking copy

    Provoking copy = prior to copy

    Copy = inability to provoke copy

    Inability to provoke copy = copy inability to provoke

    Copy inability to provoke = ability to provoke

    Copy = provokes original

    Original = doesn't provoke self

    Self = provokes anti

    Self = anti provoke

    Rey = anti inspiration

    Rey is the force of reality that rejects inspiration
     
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    But wouldn't that imply that both Luke and Leia gave up on finding Rey? Also couldn't they have chosen someone better to leave her with than Unkar Plutt?
    I still have trouble accepting Luke would contemplate killing his nephew and giving up on him, if he also gave up on finding Rey it would be too much too handle.
     
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    I am by no means suggesting this theory is anything definitive. It's one of a thousand possibilities that the writers likely haven't figured out before TLJ lol.

    At the same time, I think it could be as likely as any other theories bandied about on these forums. I'd go even further and say it has even odds (never tell me the odds) that it will be less corny than whatever JJ and company come up with in ep9.
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    Who says they gave up? They just never found her. Also, they never sent her to Jakku, that was where she wound up after her care taker died, (was killed, betrayed, got on a bender, lost her in a bet,) or whatever other reason she was abandoned.

    Or maybe she' Holdo's daughter, that's why Leia recognizes her, why Han seems familiar but isn't sure. Like I said, a thousand theories...
     
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    To reject inspiration means to reject leadership. Leadership is hierarchy. Hierarchy is structure. Structure encompasses leader and follower.

    To reject inspiration is to reject leader and follower

    Leader follower = first leader then follower

    First leader = identity of first

    Leader follower = identity of first identity of second

    Identity of first = possession of first

    Leader follower = possession of first possession of second

    To reject inspiration is to reject first and second both being possessers

    Anti possession of first possession of second = possession of first non-possession of second

    Possession of first = possession of non-possession

    Non-possession of second = non-possession of possession

    Possess not possess not possess possess

    Possess anti possess anti possess possess

    Anti possess anti possess possess = possess anti anti possess

    Possess anti anti possess = anti anti anti possess

    Anti anti anti possess = anti possess

    Possess anti possess = possess possess anti

    Rey is the control of the control of chaos

    The control of chaos = chaotic control

    Control control chaos = control chaotic control

    Rey is the force of reality who's designed to let control function. Control needs its own master, otherwise the act of control is free to be corrupted by the absence of control
     
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    @Sparafucile

    Great idea! Something more is definitely needed to explain Rey.
     
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    No it isn't.
     
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    Yes it is.
     
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    No, it really isn't. She's fully explained in the movie.
    Just because it wasn't what you wanted, doesn't mean it wasn't done.
     
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    Then SW truly is dead lol
     
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    Yeah, you were probably never going to be happy with anything but your own theory being right then.
     
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    Not at all actually, it was just a bad addition to the saga imo. Simple as that.
     
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    How so?
    The force choosing a vessel to balance it with the rise in darkness of Kylo Ren is a bad addition to a saga that has virgin force births? where it has brother and sister tryin to smash for 2 movies because the creator just decided at the last minute to not add a new character?

    Okay. Sure thing pal.
     
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