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Is Rey space Moses?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Sparafucile, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. Sparafucile

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    Anakin is pretty widely referred to on these forums as space Jesus (though his path is definitely not as wholesome), but I see some similarities between Rey and Moses.

    Sent away from her family as a kid, and though she did not land with royalty, she was eventually chosen by the Force (God) to lead her people from oppression.

    She's obviously some sort of a Chosen One, I was wondering if there are any other ideas how a Chosen One can come to be in the future? Any more accurate comparisons that fit Rey better in mythology or religion?
     
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    Jesus is divinely unmatched and way above Moses.
    Anakin is substantialy weaker than Rey, while Rey is in fact( judging from 2 films) actually devinely unmatched..

    In fact, most acurate analogy, If one could be drawn, would be that Luke actually, was in a role of exiled John the baptist from a desert, who prepared everything for the coming of a true one Messiah , which is Rey, than died, leaving all the legacy and much more..for her to fulfill.
     
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    I can see that, although I can see it as being a bit early to make that confirmation. But assuming Rey takes down the FO and Kylo and returns balance to the Force, sacrificing herself to do it, that would be an apt comparison.

    The possibility that Rey is more powerful than Anakin definitely exists, but as yet I'd give the edge to Anakin at peak form. Rey is picking it up faster (by order of magnitudes imo), but maybe she caps out earlier, even much earlier (by order of magnitudes). Without 9 we don't have a complete picture yet, I'm willing to keep an open mind.

    Other similarities between Moses and Rey would be (albeit briefly) that she was adopted by Han, the father of her adopted brother Kylo who winds up being the principal villain.
     
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    And was an orphan from the desert who was adopted by a Princess...:eek:
    And with staff in hand, she took some sacred texts from on top of a mountain...:eek:
    And then parted the rocks (sea) so her people could escape...:eek:

    #ReyIsMosesConfirmed
     
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    Nice add, forgot about the texts. Desert is a nice touch too, as are the rocks.
     
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    Did you noted a moment on that rock, when, during Luke's teachings Rey was suddenly flushed with water seemingly out of nowhere?

    It is fine touch only initiated understand
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    It was a form of baptism.

    Luke is like John the baptist, Rey is like true messiah.

    Emediately after that baptism ..Rey is to be tempted by the dark side (, she will go to the dark cave first, and than...Kylo Ren Force Skyping temptation starts....tempted as a true messiah by the evil.

    Its actually perfect.(and reason why I consider this film to be a great work of art).
     
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    Both versions are compelling. Jesus (Anakin) never parted water (lifted that many rocks) but it could easily be argued that he both probably could if it was needed. Moses did many things Jesus never did. That does not mean Jesus could not do them.

    On the flip side, Anakin did not follow Jesus's path as closely as Rey seems to be following Moses' path. Rey is receiving her power earlier in life than Moses did, and about as quickly and inexplicably as Moses did, thus I'm thinking she dies at the end.

    I think it's kind of neat that both comparisons hold. Can she be both? Some sort of hybrid?

    Do you think it was intentional on the part of RJ and JJ and their creative team?
     
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    In my eyes:

    Anakin is a messiah from an old testament, like David.

    Rey is a new messiah, who is making a new testament, while of course acknowledging the old testament to.

    (in fact in last scene, we sough Rey actually took those ancient Jedi books from the temple, they are onboard Millenium Falcon)

    "interesting enough , for intiated,Jesus was also from the line of David...

    and that is why I am prety much sure TLJ (and sequel trilogy) is great work of art, written not just by only ordinary people.

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    Simon -- Peter -- Rock

    http://biblehub.com/bsb/matthew/16.htm

    https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/Simon-Peter

    I personally see some relevancy, if not some paralleling, in that, Jesus's words to Peter, his warning to his Apostles, and Luke's dialogues with Rey:

    Jesus: "For you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

    Luke: "And this is the lesson: that Force does not belong to the Jedi. To say that, if the Jedi die, the light dies, is vanity."

    If Rey is to be the foundation of any new generation of Jedi (or whatever name they choose), then I believe she shares a very interesting parallel with Peter.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Yes, she moved some rocks. I've seen the film.
     
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    Oh, sorry, I had a doubt at first.
     
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    Thanks for checkin' ;)
     
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    How about episode VII?
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    Yessir! Twenty-one times to be exact.

    So let me get this straight, you're attempting to provide proof of Rey being "unmatched" in the Star Wars films, by showing her go up against some rocks, and Daniel Craig......am I getting that right? I'm getting a little tired of folks only providing pieces of something, while ignoring the rest, in attempts to prove their unfounded points.

    MindProbe-TFA.png kylo-ren-and-rey-850x536.jpeg tumblr_inline_okgbm8dnhz1rc1iw2_540.png 2.png Untitled.png

    Also looked for sceenshot of Rey and Kylo grabbing for Luke's saber in the throne room (with equal power)but couldn't find one.

    Anway.....yeah she's not "unmatched."
     
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    Of course she is unmached, nobody can win over her, she has been brough to Snoke for Snoke's doom.
    Kylo wouldn't had a chance to kill Snoke without her.

    It would be better for Snoke if he has invited a termonuclear bomb in his throne room instead Rey.
    Short lived dominance of Snoke over Rey is result of milleinia old experience over inexperienced girl.

    Not that just her power obviously clouded Snoke's senses, so Kylo had a chance to kill him, she also finished pretoran guards first than helped Kylo to kill last guard.

    And I would ask you to notice when you will watch film again, please note that after the final duel between Kylo and Rey, in which they fight for Anakin's sword, after the explosion Kylo is unconscious and Rey has already gone by stealing Snoke's shuttle.

    So Rey is again shown to be overal stronger than fully trained darksider,now in practice of a rank of a Sith Lord with Skywalker blood, in practice of a level of Darth Vader- which now Kylo is.

    She is simply unmached.
     
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    An extract from The Space Bible:

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    "There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up." – Exodus 3: 2


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    "Then Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain…” – Exodus 19:3


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    "Moses turned and went down the mountain with the two tablets of the covenant law in his hands. They were inscribed on both sides, front and back.", "The tablets were the work of God; the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets" - Exodus 32:15 and 16

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    "And Moses stretched out his hand over the se
    a; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided"
    - Exodus 14:21

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    "Moses then lead the people into the promised land!"


    CONFIRMED: Rey is Space Moses. :eek:
     
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    Perhaps we didn't understand each other.

    By unmatched I mean that outcome of every confrontation ends by Rey's (moral and physical) victory.

    You can't deny this.

    That is the power of a messiah.

    You can even put a messiah on the cross(or try to cut its head by apprentice) jet one wins at the end, because one's paths are perfectly righteous and thus backed by true divine intervention not just from the start , but all along.


    In this light, there is , in my eyes, a powerful link of the motive of end of The Last Jedi, and the end of Ben Hur (1959).

    Rey indeed ends in fact as shepard of all shepards, a starter of a new Jedi.."the only thing they need (Leia)."...

     
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