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SPECULATION Is Rey the Daughter of the Villain Supreme Leader Snoke

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Oneforceonebalance, Sep 20, 2017.

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Is Rey Snoke's Daughter?

  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  3. She Luke's daughter

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  4. She is Obiwan's grand daughter

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  5. her parents are not known characters

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  6. not important

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  7. maybe yes maybe no

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    Supreme Leader Snoke is the main villain of the story or is he that a topic for another thread.

    upload_2017-9-19_21-26-1.jpeg Rey & Snoke

    But what was missing in the other Star Wars movies is showing blood relationship between Sith Master as in Palpitine known as Darth Sidious and another dark force user that is related to him. ( Forget that theory that he made Anakin Skywalker with dark side of the force).

    We can have this with Snoke & Rey, just think for a moment. When Kylo Ren said in TFA " what girl!", and when he caught her, he did not know who she was, but when he saw her as a force user, and stronger than him in the force, and he was trained and she did not. When he told Snoke he said, "bring her to me". When Rey escaped and Kylo Ren was looking for her, he told one of the Stormtroopers who was a female " we must find her by the hour she will get stronger, she just began to tap into her powers". Wow, that was a lot of info what does that mean, it means that Kylo Ren knows what Rey is, this is how he knew that she will get stronger by the hour.

    Is Rey a prophecy? or is she Snoke's daughter who is a prophecy due to who her mother and her father are. When Snoke said to bring her to me, does Snoke think this is his daughter or is she is the Force Awaken a prophecy? Maybe we can talk about that theory in another thread.

    If Rey is Snoke's daughter, what is she doing on Jakku. That the big Question everyone is asking, along with who are her parents. Many believe it is Luke, but that would not be a surprise at all. That which is surprising is that Rey is Snoke's daughter and how she got on Jakku would have a relationship with who is her mother.

    If Rey, not Snoke's daughter but can she be the creation of Snoke such as the children of the force as we see in Star Wars animation clone wars. Maybe the scientist who made her is a person a woman who worked for Snoke, even close to him and left Rey on Jakku so Snoke will not have his secret weapon against the one and only Luke Skywalker.

    When Kylo Ren said ' What Girl!' can be a sign this is one of the children of experiments of Snoke made the secret weapon that was lost.

    Or Rey is Snoke's daughter and she was left on Jakku by her mother, or Luke Skywalker because she is Snoke's daughter and he does not want to train any new Jedi who parentage is related to a strong dark force user, because of the action of Ben Solo killing Luke's students and destroying his school. Could Rey's mother be part of Luke's former students that sacrifice herself, and left her on Jakku because it was the safest place for her to be, with her heading to defend Luke's temple and fight Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren. Could this be the reason why we see in TLJ trailer Rey swinging the lightsaber while Luke is at a distance looking because he refuses to train her because knowing her parentage is related to Snoke (or even another Darkside user)?

    This is why the Force Ghost must convince Luke to train her and not to lose hope on the right side of the force, and what happened with Ben Solo does not have to be the part Rey will go down. I believe Force Ghost will focus more on Luke and not Rey. Rey will not know she is related to Snoke.

    When Rey faces Kylo Ren for the second time, the upper hand that Kylo Ren have is that her father is Snoke. Which Luke did not tell her, and Kylo Ren tells Rey all that she needs to know about Luke, her father Snoke and what really happens with her mother and that she is even still alive.

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    Next thread is a theory that Finn and Rey are byproducts of Snoke experiments. Another theory that Finn and Rey have a link together that is connected to the Force and this is why Finn is drawn to her.
    Another theory how Kylo Ren will be the new face of Star Wars and Force User!
     
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    I don't even know if Snoke is human or not.
     
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    he is
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    Snoke is not human.

    And for the origins of Rey:

    Ben's introduction:

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    Comes from the LIGHT of the shuttle and goes to the DARKNESS of Jakku.

    Tekka: "The First Order rose from the Dark Side. You did not. You cannot deny the truth that is your family" (The family of Ben = Light side, Leia, Luke, Anakin redeemed)

    Rey's introduction:

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    Comes from the DARKNESS of a Star Destroyer and goes to the LIGHT of Jakku.

    Rey has probably dark side/Empire/First Order origins, Jakku has ties with Palpatine/The Empire in the new canon books and is near the Unknown Regions where the remnant of the Empire/First Order are:

    "Palpatine and his Adviser Yupe Tashu traveled to Jakku to supervise an archaeological dig on the Plaintive Hand plateau. During that trip, Palpatine encountered a twelve-year old Galli, who had stowed aboard his yacht Imperialis. He took the young boy as a protege and tasked him with guarding the excavation site from any intruders. Rax spent the next ten years guarding the Plaintive Hand plateau, which became the site for the Jakku Observatory. The Observatory was part of Palpatine's Contingency plan to destroy the Galactic Empire in the event that he died. Palpatine had no wish to leave his Empire to a successor and tasked Galli with executing the Contingency.

    The Jakku Observatory was home to computers which projected paths into the Unknown Regions, a collection of Sith relics, and a borehole which led to the planet's core. Palpatine instructed Galli to use the borehole to detonate the planet and the remnants of the Empire. Galli adopted the persona Gallius Rax and later became a Fleet Admiral in the Imperial Navy. At some point during the Age of the Empire, the Galactic Empire established a secret research base and weapons facility on the planet."

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jakku
     
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    If Rey is somehow linked to Snoke or a Clone, I will have to praise LF. Because that to me is balsy. Basically, telling us that our MC's roots are born of darkness is both a homage to ESB in the revelation of Vader, but also treading new ground in that the main character is basically a spawn of darkness/ accident. Now, for granted; I am trying not to get too married to this concept, as I'd be seeing myself up for disappointment. Plus, Rey; I am going, to be honest; I found her bland. Really, bland. Better than Anakin. But that's not hard...

    As for Niamor's evidence about Aftermath, that was really weird. What was Palpatine asking Gallius to protect and what failsafe did he have to destroy the Galactic Empire? That I found super weird, but given how Palpatine built the entire Empire on himself, populating it with mostly inept bureaucrats, yeah I can see it. I honestly believe the excavations where for something important. This being a cloning facility or something. Legends had toyed around with this idea and Palpatine having clones.

    And while I despise anything to do with Dark Empire, the idea of cloning in SWs itself is a fascinating idea. Particularly, a Force Sensitive. So, if it was revealed that Rey was an experiment of the Empire that in of itself could actually be something really clever. Because, it showcases just how insane/ evil Palpatine was even in his last stages. But more so; hiding Rey on the planet she was created(assuming this was true), is actually ingenious, given how the planet is supposedly polluted with dark side Force energy thus masking her presence. Overall, I doubt this will come to pass, but if LF does, in fact, reveal this, I will happily eat my words.

    Or they will make her a Skywalker, Kenobi or be related to some other character. Surely, we do not have enough of those folks, running around? :)
     
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    No....just....no!
     
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    I would speculate.....no.

    reason: he is to old despite all the money or gold, to old.
    even Hugh Hafner is a boy compared to him.:p
     
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    I won't mind Snoke being Rey's creator, and in that sense her father....but the idea of Snoke doing the nasty with some poor female is very messed up..... :eek:
     
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    I could only see it being possible if he created her through experimentation.
     
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    While I do see the merits of story telling with this theory, I just dont get that 'warm and fuzzy' from it that Star Wars has always given me. See, Star Wars is like a salve for an itch. We can only ever sate that itch if the ingredients of the salve remain the same. To me, this sounds like a changing of ingredients.
     
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    Given the size of snoke compared to Rey and the fact that parents have something to do with the size of their kids, I suspect snoke would have had a small wife.
    Maybe Maz?
     
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    Two non-humans can't make a human.
     
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    Snoke looks almost humanoid, just add a bit colour (orange) and make him smaller ...
     
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    Rey got her looks from the Force then.
     
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    That would work too
     
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    She has her Mum's lovely eyes and her Dad's long legs.....:p
     
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    Probably she got all the beauty from her parents leaving nothing for them.
     
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    Shaeeah Lawquane, a human-Twi'lek hybrid

    Hybrids were individuals whose parents were from two different species. The Alder-Espirions were a people descended from the humanAlderaanians and the[1] Espirion.[2] Humans and Twi'leks could also have children,[3] and so did Quarrens and Mon Calamari.[4] Humans and Theelincould also interbreed.[5]

    [​IMG] This article is a stub. You can help Wookieepedia by expanding it.
    AppearancesEdit

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    1. ↑ Princess Leia, Part IV
    2. ↑ [​IMG] Jordan D. White House Press Secretary — Given that the "Half-Alderaanians" in the Leia… on Tumblr (backup link) "Given that the 'Half-Alderaanians' in the Leia miniseries were referred to as 'Alder-Espirions' at one point, can we safely assume that the natives of Espirion are called, well, the Espirions?" "Yes." (screenshot)
    3. ↑ [​IMG] @pablohidalgo (Pablo Hidalgo) on Twitter. “They're not Cut's children, biologically, but they did have a human father. [...] It wasn't said, but it was part of their character design.” (screenshot)
    4. ↑ "A Recipe for Death"
    5. ↑ Star Wars Character Encyclopedia: Updated and Expanded

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hybrid


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    There are two conflicting sources for this article: Order 66: A Republic Commando Novel and Star Wars: The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia.

    Lucasfilm has not yet established a cohesive timeline. Editor discretion is advised.

    A hybrid was an individual with parentage from more than one sentient species.

    Contents

    Biology
    The Human species was able to interbreed with the Coynite,[1] Echani,[2] Ferroan,[3] Hamadryas,[4] Kiffar,[5]Miraluka,[6] Nagai,[7], Sith,[8][9][10] Theelin,[11] Twi'lek, and a number of other species.[12] When Humans bred with the Kalai, the resulting offspring were known as Lethagoe[13] and with the Zabrak the Dathomirians.[14]

    On the other hand, Humans were unable to interbreed with the Anzati, Qiraash, Rattataki, or Umbaranspecies without genetic manipulation.[15] Humans were also incompatible with the Bothan[16], Keshiri[17]and Tusken Raider[18] species.

    Other compatible hybrid combinations included Borneck with Etti,[19] and Arkanian with Sephi.[20] There was a half-Bothan population[21] on the planet Farfalla.[22] Other incompatible combinations included Gotaland H'nemthe.[23]

    Many species ostracized members who bore hybrid children.[24]

    Behind the scenes
    According to Order 66: A Republic Commando Novel and Imperial Commando: 501st, and also The X-Wings series of books by Micheal Stackpole and Aaron Allston, Humans and Twi'leks were genetically incompatible. However, Star Wars: The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia directly contradicts this, indicating that such pairings could indeed produce hybrid offspring. As it is the most recent source, this article follows the Character Encyclopedia.

    Appearances
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    Notes and referencesEdit
    1. ↑ [​IMG] "Uhl Eharl Khoehng"—Star Wars Adventure Journal 8.
    2. ↑ Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
    3. ↑ Rogue Planet
    4. ↑ Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide
    5. ↑ Legacy of the Force: Bloodlines
    6. ↑ Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Handbook
    7. ↑ [​IMG] The Forgotten War: The Nagai and the Tofs on Hyperspace (article) (content removed from StarWars.com and unavailable)
    8. ↑ Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide
    9. ↑ Star Wars: The Old Republic Holonet: Sith Pureblood
    10. ↑ Heritage of the Sith
    11. ↑ The Essential Guide to Characters
    12. ↑ Star Wars: The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia
    13. ↑ [​IMG] "Zirtran's Anchor"—Star Wars Adventure Journal 5
    14. ↑ [​IMG] "Everything You Always Wanted to Know about the Nightsisters but Were Afraid to Ask"—Star Wars Insider 122
    15. ↑ Coruscant Nights II: Street of Shadows
    16. ↑ X-Wing: Isard's Revenge
    17. ↑ Fate of the Jedi: Omen, Chapter Five
    18. ↑ Republic 59: Enemy Lines
    19. ↑ [​IMG] "Who's Who: Imperial Grand Admirals"—Star Wars Insider 66
    20. ↑ Knights of the Old Republic 48: Demon, Part 2
    21. ↑ The Essential Guide to Warfare
    22. ↑ The Essential Atlas
    23. ↑ The New Essential Guide to Alien Species
    24. ↑ Nightlily: The Lovers' Tale, pp. 183 – 184
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    Yes they sure can have kids!
     
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    They can, but none that would look like Rey.
     
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