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Is sequel trilogy an attack on the institution of classic family?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Apr 18, 2018.

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Do you think there is evidence of the attack on classic family values in the sequel trilogy?

Poll closed Jun 3, 2020.
  1. Yes

    7 vote(s)
    12.3%
  2. No

    50 vote(s)
    87.7%
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  1. metadude

    metadude Rebelscum

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    Art is an inherently blank canvas upon which is painted by the viewer their subjective interpretation. In the movie Inception, Cobb says "We create the world of the dream, we bring the subject into the dream - and they fill it with their subconscious." That's what a movie really is. And what we're seeing, by way of our own interpretation, is our subconscious reflected back at us. So if you're "seeing" something, negative, then that something negative being put there by your own subconscious. So the question "Is the ST saying, such and such?" is really a question of, what's your subconsciousness doing? And if I can come along and get you to "see" what I want you to see? Inception.

    The point being that, any movie is saying to you, what you think it's saying to you. So the answer to the question "Is the sequel trilogy...?" can be summed up "Depends on what's in your safe".

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  2. Corn Cream

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    Art is also a reflection of society and where we are today. Based on that we are in trouble. The pursuit to create something new is fading. What we have in it's place are reboots and sequels.
     
  3. metadude

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    Well, a wise man once said, there's nothing new under the sun. When you really strip away all of the cosmetic differences, there's really only around seven stories being told over and over again. They're just being dressed in different styles of clothing.
     
  4. Keri Ford

    Keri Ford Clone Commander

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    Interesting topic, I am sorry I haven't read through it all. So maybe I'm covering what others have. It was interesting for me to hear Lucas describe Star Wars as a family saga, I had never thought of it that way but it was interesting that Lucas did.
    Anakin's family was the Force/God for father and Mother who is slave and who he is taken from and then sees her die. The loss of his mother is shown as a part of his journey to the dark side. He then choses Palpatine over a relationship with Padme.
    Then we have Luke and Leia and they find their sibling relationship through the course of the OT. And Luke works in bringing his father back into the family and away from the dark side, at which point Vader dies but is redeemed.
    I can't really see the ST has thought much about the family and TLJ totally dismisses the question of Rey's parents and as others have pointed out the family that we do see is Leia Hans and Ben's and we'll see if that moves towards redemption but having killed his father it doesn't look good.
     
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    Reminds me of this -
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    I agree completely, and it's why I like this trilogy most. Star Wars is still a fairy tale, but a more realistic one this time around. It stresses the importance of family and sends a great message to viewers of all ages.
     
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    That is rather sad.
     
  8. stencil

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    I don't want to make a SW forum an attack/defense of Christianity, but I'm just going to say that I don't think there was any real protest of Dr. Pepper for this. I certainly never heard of it. Let's just move on from this, shall we?
     
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    Yes ROTS was a rebuke of the Bush administration and its foreign policy but it was pretty subtle.

    The political side of starwars movies were much more about foreign policy in the past than about economic or social policy. Even though I love the Sequels so far, I understandwhy ppl have a problem with Disney of all people attacking Capitalism. As Canto Bight seems to be an attack on rich people and their social status. Whether Canto Bight had a purposeful anti capitalist message or not is up to the viewer, but I see many think itdoes
     
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    I see this kind of thing in a lot of movies. Broken families and are very common in film today.
     
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