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Is the Original Trilogy Overrated?

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by CTrent29, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. Pernicious-Jawa

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    I grew up in the prequel era, but ANH was the first Star Wars I watched. I couldn't get enough. It touched on some primal need for storytelling within me, later I was to understand that would be rooted in George's affinity with Campbell. Look at all the things it does so well - immense worldbuilding, implementation of the monomyth, a realistic portrayal of romance (Han and Leia in ESB), cast chemistry, mysticism, groundbreaking special effects, exhilarating battle scenes.

    Does it have its flaws? Sure, nothing is perfect. However, every superlative you've heard about the OT is true...all of it. Gamechanger.
     
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    No, I think the OT's masterpiece-with-weird-flaws rating is pretty accurate. The dialogue can be down-right odd at times, some of the background creatures/costumes doesn't stand up to close inspection today, and a few mistakes had to be CGIed out in later releases, but overall the OT is a marvelous pieces of cinema & storytelling with an impact unlike anything else I can think of coming out of 20th century pop culture (with the very possible exception of the blues genre from the American Deep South).

    Nope, the OT is pretty great!
     
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    Not overrated but held in too high a regard by many, I don't think the gap in overall quality between the OT and PT is as big as a lot of people seem to think. But that's just my opinion.
     
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    I not a big PT guy, but I agree. George is a phenomenal story teller, but he himself says he doesn’t enjoy the nitty gritty of writing/directing. I always wonder what the PT would have been like had Kasdan just wrote the scripts based on George’s treatments and Señor Spielbergo directed them.

    The core story would have been the same, but Kasdan would have rained some of George’s crazier ideas in and tightened up the script (Especially the dialogue!). In his own words after watching the first cut of TPM, George even said he “may have gone too far in some places”.

    Liam Neeson, Sam Jackson, Christopher Lee and Natalie Portman are all really good actors (hell, even Hayden showed he has some chops in Shattered Glass). Their performances in the PT are so flat though! I think Spielberg would have got more out of them.

    Had they also toned down the over-reliance on CGI and matched the aesthetic up to the original trilogy, then I think the reception (and perception now) would have been a lot closer to the OT.

    The PT’s problem was never story, it was just execution.
     
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    Basically something like TFA.
    Treatment was originated by Lucas, Written by Kasdan a lot, and directed by Abrams (who is basically Spielberg Jr.).
    The only real left field thing that happened (in regards to getting what you're after) was Arndt kind of ended up like what would have happened if Lucas had been away on emergency and Marquand took over.

    So...if it wouldn't've been for Arndt, you would've gotten nearly exactly this, and TLJ wouldn't exist because the core backbone of TLJ was Lucas' TFA idea.

    Cheers,
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    Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. The general reception to TFA was probably the closest any Star Wars film has got replicating the reception of an OT film. Had the prequels used the same formula (only with George having a more active role with story by and producer credits), the core story wouldn’t have been vastly different but the reception then (and the perception now) would probably be a lot more positive. I’m sure in the ROTS documentary, it even shows Spielberg “backseat” directed elements of the Obi-Wan/Anakin fight...which is arguably the best part of the prequels. Imagine 3 movies of that level of quality.
     
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