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Is this a trilogy?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Sparafucile, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Sparafucile

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    Or does it have to be a trilogy?

    We've had two clear cut trilogies. I'm just wondering if JJ, RJ, or KK ever explicitly said this is a trilogy, or can it be an ongoing saga?

    I've done some google searches and dug a bit, but couldn't immediately find a direct quote saying this was a trilogy.

    So I'm asking if someone has a link handy, and also if it's not, how would you feel about an undefined, ongoing saga. It would be much harder to predict and anticipate tone, and beats along the way if it was a saga not contained and confined within 3 movies. The idea that it has to be a trilogy reminds me of the Sith's rule of 2. It seems self destructive, or at least restrictive to the overall story.

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    Hopefully episode 9 and 10 is a two part story. I wouldn't mind that.
     
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    Limiting the scope of the story enforces some semblance of structure from the get-go: a distinct beginning, middle and an end. While I certainly wouldn't mind sequel-sequel trilogy, I feel like removing the constraint of a three-film storyline would make subsequent films feel too loosey-goosey, like a TV show that doesn't really know how to wrap itself up and eventually finishes because the ratings were too low to excuse its existence. There's also a fear of losing any potential new audience because of the build-up of lore - an issue the ST is already facing to an extent (*cough* China *cough*). So, I am a huge fan of the concept of a trilogy, especially considering that in regards to how the ST handled the "heroine's journey" of Rey (it actually works pretty well but I won't delve too deeply into it right now because I need to get some sleep.)
     
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    Yeah, I can agree with what you say too. It certainly wouldn't be all pros if they decided to go ongoing saga route for the cons you've mentioned.

    It says "...final installment of the Skywalker saga." which seems like the end, but it still could be open to interpretation. The Skywalker saga ends, but the Rey saga could conceivably continue, there doesn't even have to be a gap, or at least not a major gap in time in between. Events could potentially flow from this trilogy to effect the next. We've coined this trilogy, and maybe the media has too, as the sequel trilogy, I just don't recall LFL ever doing it.

    Edit: I'll give you this though, I am wondering that maybe I am just splitting hairs. Maybe it's due to the lack of a time jump between TFA and TLJ, but I just have this nagging feeling lately that they might be doing this more a la Harry Potter saga type then the traditional SW.
     
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    It would be funny if this was a quartet, if only because we'd all have to change our PT,OT, ST shorthand to PT, OT ....SQ? Haha

    However, I think it's gonna be a trilogy because if it becomes a 10 part series with a 2 part finale, that definitively closes the door to the main saga being revisited. If they're gonna break from the established trilogy format, that's a pretty big statement that this is in fact the end of the saga forever. Keeping it three sets of trilogies allows them to easily tack on a 4th trilogy 10 years from now when they want to re-start the episodic cash train, in case Rian Johnson's new trilogy or the Benoff and Weiss series doesn't catch on in the same way.

    I strongly believe that this is not the final chapter, and that there will be a 4th trilogy where Rey, Finn, Kylo, whoever is left over after 9 will be leading a new order of force users, facing a new dark side threat, etc. Episode 9 will end in a way that will "conclude" the Skywalker story, but there will be some way that the door is left open for new stories in the future. Even if the whole thing is 100% wrapped up, in 10 years we'll just have another set of movies tacked on to the end of what is an already complete story, just like what happened after ROTJ. It won't matter how or why, we'll all flock to the theaters for another three movies either way.
     
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    Yes it is a trilogy because that is what it is being called ;)

    I jest.

    I am very certain I have heard it officially called a trilogy. This particular story of Ren, Rey, First Order vs Resistence will be wrapped up in Episode IX but it seems clear to me that Lucasfilm and Disney wanted new characters introduced for future trilogies.

    If Rey, Finn and BB-8 are were meant to be used in just one set of Saga films then they would have been supporting characters to Luke, Leia and Han instead of the other way around.
     
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    Woah didn’t think of that but it’s true the OT cast are supporting the new cast - so this might not be the end. Didn’t Kathleen Kennedy say on an interview once on Star Wars show that if the story called for it we could get further adventures with these characters and when she said it I got the impression it was film or tv format .
    https://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/11/01/star-wars-finn-rey-episode-ix-the-last-jedi-future/
     
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    It depends how well IX does. If it is a smashing success, you bet your @#$ they will bring them back for more films. Might be that they recast the actors if one or more doesn't want to come back, but I can totally see them dusting off these characters in a decade or so. Again, assuming IX is a smashing success.
     
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    This is actually a pretty interesting question. I assume it's a trilogy. Someone else already brought up the Skywalker saga quote.

    But that's not really what @Sparafucile is asking, is it?

    I remember about a year ago it was rumored that Ridley said she's done with the series after IX. I'm not up on enough to know if that was ever confirmed. Otherwise, I guess anything's open to interpretation.

    Heck, Hamill can even assuredly come back if he'd like.

    But as someone else mentioned, I'm sure IX's earnings will be a big factor in the series going forward. Personally, while I'm looking forward to spinoffs and other trilogies, I hope this "main timeline" is never fully abandoned. It's sort of the glue that holds the GFFA together.
     
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    Would you be opposed to this "main timeline" being an ongoing saga instead of a trilogy, or series of trilogies? I see the benefits of it being an ongoing saga that every episode would be hard to anticipate, and it would lessen comparisons to the OT and PT, which probably isn't a bad idea (trying to measure up to the OT especially is hard to do, probably even impossible due to nostalgia). As someone mentioned, the knock on having an ongoing saga would be loss of the SW structure we're familiar with, the beginning, middle and end. Traditionalists would buck at the idea, but I think most could come around if done right.

    To be honest, I expect I to be a trilogy, it seems to be marketed as such, I just find there's some ambiguity there too. Disney isn't restricted to trilogies, and nothing says it has to be. All that said, a conclusion would be nice at some point and I believe most fans value that too.
     
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    Im sorry but it is trilogy both Rian Johnsons Trilogy And The Beinoff & Weiss Series will be possibly prior too or adjacent sorry but it is a trilogy divided into 3 Parts im watching trilogies I started with Back To The Future
     
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    That's an interesting thought.

    I don't think I'd be opposed. I like how "big" a trilogy feels, but not all stories necessarily need to be told in three parts. I guess as long as there's a story to tell, I trust LFL will figure out what they need to do to most effectively tell it.
     
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    The Skywalker story is ending but I have been assuming that the Saga movies would then become about Rey and others. Ridley, Boyega, etc could turn up in standalones, TV shows, etc and have their owl solo films but I couldn't see Lucasfilm ending the main series.
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    I don't think it will be a ten year wait but the Saga will hibernate for a few years.

    I don't think there will be any be any recasting. I can't imagine any actor saying no to Star Wars but if any of them were not interested they'll be replaced by new characters.
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    Ridley may have said that but the meaning isn't clear. Was she saying she'd never do it again, was the interviewer asking her if there was plans for an Episode X, what was her tone of voice, etc

    Hamill should never have been "written out" of the series. He has years left in in him to play Luke and he could carry the Saga by himself if he needed to.

    I'm also looking forward to the non-Saga stuff.
     
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    I wonder if one day we will see a 'Special Edition' of the Sequel Trilogy? To smooth out any discrepancies or issues between the 3 ST films, maybe insert a clue about the possibility of Palpatine being around (or something larger, more menacing than Snoke; 'something elusive, something elsewhere...' ;)) in TFA or TLJ?

    The Original Trilogy was changed to fit more in line with the Prequel Trilogy - by George himself, so it is not unheard of in Star Wars ;)

    If Lucasfilm got the 'thumbsup' from JJ and RJ then maybe it could be a go, and certainly not expensive to do (film a few additional scenes or lines of dialogue as they did with the OT Special Editions over time, a handful of re-edits etc), and a re-release would be snapped up by collectors and maybe even some of the people who found the ST to be lacking because of the lack of fluidity between the ST movies?

    Easy money and PR or Lucasfilm & Disney too!
     
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    Not so long ago rumour had it they were thinking of a Finn tv series, and Ridley said she'd be back if Boyega and Isaac wanted to.

    Isaac is apparently signed up to play Moon Knight, but the others might be available. I guess it depends on how well their careers are going post SW. And how much money is involved, of course!
     
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    It is a trilogy.

    But I sense that TROS feels off of what we saw in the previous two movies.

    TFA and TLJ matches perfectly.

    So for me, now, we have a Duology (TFA and TLJ) and a single film (TROS).

    But I think this probably will change with more views of TROS and the years passed.
     
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    On another forum I've seen people saying that TROS was a good sequel to TFA and that they preferred to forget TLJ existed.

    It did seem as if that was what the writer and director wanted us to think.
     
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    Yes, maybe that's what they tried to do, they tried to mind trick the audience

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    This is not the Sequel you're looking for.
     
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