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Is this how the Force works? (Rey's family)

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Force Nun, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Force Nun

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    Mirrorbright shines the moon, as fires die to their embers
    Those you loved are with you still—
    The moon will help you remember
    (Bloodline, a novel by Claudia Gray)

    Hi. This is my first thread that I started on this forum so please do not be harsh on me .

    At first, TFA film looked to me as derivate of original triology, however there are 2 powerful scenes in the film that are emotionaly linked, and that link made me believe that there is much, much more behind this surface, and that is what I want to explain to the public, in the way I see things ...

    As we know Rey had a Force vision. In the background there were words of Yoda

    "The Force surrounds us, and binds us."

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    Paradoxically central drama od TFA starts with the comic scene between Han and Finn blabling about how the Force Works.
    This one.
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    Strangely this comic scene is a starting point of development in the Film that fulfills startingl scene in the Rey's vision.

    The starting scene of Rey's vision is one that shows her in a Bespin, in the same corridor that leads to the bridge abow the deep large shaft. In this place the epic clash between Luke and Vader occurred in the film Empire Strikes Back.

    In the TFA we have again a bridge over the shaft.

    Bespin fight between Luke and Vader.
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    Rey's vision of Bespin event.

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    The clash in the TFA happens between Han Solo and his son, Kylo Ren, but the similarity of this scene and Bespin scene, its atmosphere and setting is obvious, bridge over large deep abyss-shaft.

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    Han falls
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    Bespin, Luke falls

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    We know that Rey quickly developed deep attachment to Han Solo.
    Kylo Ren ,in his atempt to extract Rey's thoughts found what she feels about Han:

    In Rey's thoughts Han is like a father she never had.


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    So its an emotion.

    What if Rey, as a Force sensitive had some emotions about Han, which came trough the Force, but she didn't know facts behind those emotions?

    So let us look from the perspective of emotions.

    In the Bespin scene we have one person that expresses deep desturbing emotion of horror.

    It's Luke's reaction on the Vader's words: "I am your father"


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    Its a very destrubing, crushing emotion, we know Rey run away from it in Maz Kanata castle.

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    Rey tried to run away from those emotions that she felt in her vision,those emotions that once were, and that will came to her, incoming in her future as well, She felt that,otherwise she will not try to run away from them.

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    Here is the "tricky" detail I think i noticed:

    In its Force vision, Rey sough herself in the emotional place of Luke Skywalker.

    Let me repost this comparison once more:

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    That path lead Luke into a final moment of battle with Vader, and ultimately to single, critical, most important moment of original trilogy : to a moment he found a shocking thruth about his father.

    Rey finds herself also in horrific deeply emotional position in which she is just an observer, however, in a vision she sough herself in the emotional place of Luke, in a place in which Luke got revelation, extreme emotional reaction about who is his father. Its emotion linked with parentage.
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    Is this a moment that actually shows us Han Solo is Rey's father? A crushing moment of emotional loss from Rey's vision happened, one that Rey tried to run away from?

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    Moment of Rey's tragic loss.

    Rey doesn't know Han indeed is her father,she does not know how to interpret her Force visions jet.

    And Han somehow didn't know either she was his daughter.(it seems imposible I know)

    But The Force does know. Emotions, feeling. Tragic emotins,Luke's in the past Rey's in the future, deep emotions of tragedy, linked with their ..fathers (?)

    Is that how the Force works?

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    “Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future…the past. Old friends long gone.”
    Yoda
     
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    Weird thought about this, but the lightsaber is showing Rey scenes of the past that it was in, so that might mean whoever left her on Jakku had Anakin's saber.
     
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    Excellent post Force Nun! Great points.
     
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    O.M.G.
     
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    OP is right.I had same theory with different approach,but this one is awesome..emotions.
    Its family corridor in Rey's vision.
    Luke went trough corridor to find horrific truth about his Father,that means his family.Rey in her vision goes trugh same corridor that leads to horrific moment of tragedy of her family that she will met and did met.Her brother killing her father.
    Only thing left unspoken was:"Search your feelings Rey,you'l know it to be true".
     
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  6. Force Nun

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    Rey is my favorite character ever.I thought alot about her.
    The final peace of puzzle(in my eyes) I found on this forum,in the news that Rey will still be, even in TLJ , haunted by thought and emotions of losing Han like a father she never had,and asking how Kylo the monster could have killed his own father. She will go on personal level against Kylo for that now.
    Something happened to her.She withnessed moment of her family tragedy, didn't know its her real family, she felt deep emotion and now takes personal quest against Kylo .She can't accept something, she must find the truth that
    would explain her emotions.That is how I see things.
     
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    That is why that my OMG.You cracked the code.

    Haha I will die of my lough..it looks so obvious ....she even flies Millenium Falcon like a true Solo and true Skywalker, there,in front of our nose, half of the film.

    Hahaha.
     
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    Awesome post Force Nun! You have some great theories and you made me ponder on a few things.
     
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    We already know she's not a Solo, but it's still a good theory.
     
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    I was not aware if such faliure. Where has this been said? Reylo headquaters?:p
     
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    The book and Daisy herself. Skywalker is still possible, but not a Solo.
     
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    But what book?
     
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    Bloodline.

    Also Rey and Kylo Ren are 10 years apart in age. Any pregnancy during that time would have been mentioned or noticed.
     
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    Ah that book.
    I do not want to take the honor from OP but now I comprehend why people don't undestand some things.
    I hope Forces Nun is reading so I would like him(her) to explain the First word of is post.I think I understand it.

    Word is Mirrorbright.

    Nun why did you posted Mirrorbright ?
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 13, 2017, Original Post Date: Aug 13, 2017 ---
    Why Mirrorbright ?
     
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    Her parents look like no one I've seen in the SW universe based on their silhouettes in that photo.
     
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    Mirrorbright is an Alderaan children's lalaby.

    Leia named her personal ship upon children's lalaby.

    Mirrorbright.

    It is ship mentioned in the novel Bloodline.

    Small bright ship,pilot,copilot an space for few passengers.

    Meet Mirrorbright.

    The ship on this concept art is recognized by Pablo Hidalgo as the one that left Rey as a child on Jakku.


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    Mirrorbright, shines the moon, its glow as soft as an ember
    When the moon is mirrorbright, take this time to remember
    Those you have loved but are gone
    Those who kept you so safe and warm
    The mirrorbright moon lets you see
    Those who have ceased to be
    Mirrorbright shines the moon, as fires die to their embers
    Those you loved are with you still—
    The moon will help you remember

    (Bloodline,novel)


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    Oooh Korr Sella used it! Interesting!!
     
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    Yp.

    And,in that Rey's vision,that ship that left her goes towards strange light.
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    Mirrorbright,the lilaby moon.
    From Alderaanian mother which once sing a song to her baby.
     
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    Dark side red. Creepy!

    Though the pic and description of her ship are wrong. It's not glossy, bright white or an unconventional W-shape.

    Also it looks like the ship was destroyed the same way Starkiller destroyed those planets. That's what Maz meant by her family is never coming back.
     
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    It is glossy white(look Rey vision pic post. 16.),and it is a W profile from behind(same pic),hiding weapons(barely visible).It is of right size(4 persons armed cargo ship).
     
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