"It's time for the Jedi to end...?"

In context.
Luke : "The last time I saw Ben he said 'It's time for the Jedi to end', So I kicked him out of the Jedi club".

 

It's one line of dialogue. We have no idea of the context.
IT'S A TEASER! IT'S SUPPOSED TO TEASE!

Luke is jaded, disillusioned. He is the Fisher King. Rey is Percival. She heals him.
We are going to get a completely new understanding of the Force and of its various factions, but....

In all honesty I don't think Luke will always be the last Jedi - he's just the last at the moment. I don't think the Jedi will end.

 

when the TLJ trailer came up at the beginning of some movie i went to recently (Wonder Woman, maybe?), and Luke dropped that line, my step dad (who had never seen the trailer and isn't too much of a Star Wars fan) turned to me and said, "i somehow doubt that!" i cracked up

the Jedi will definitely NOT end. @mrverylongusername has the right idea: Luke is down and out and Rey will come to show the way again. it'll be great.

 

Maybe thats just not the complete dialogue?
Maybe its 'Time for the Jedi to end....--

This mad speculation
Or
The hijinks of the 1st order
Or
Reys intense glares
Or
I better put the Jack Daniels away
Goodnight sirs

 

luke trained a new generation of jedi.

A powerful yet conflicted padawan, and blood relative, destroys the new jedi order and brings darkness back to the galaxy.

Luke exiles into meditation and seclusion for his failures.

Rey comes, wants training in the force.

Luke doesn't want to train new jedi (it's time for the jedi to end)

Rey convinces him it's different this time.

Luke trains her as a jedi, under the "old ways", hence the books with jedi symbols.

 

Maybe Luke means that he needs to end, not the entire Jedi, Singular not Plural.

 

You mean "A teaser misunderstood could be."

I like the Fisher King idea. Its a trope even within Arthur stories. Prior to helping Arthur in many tales Merlin is living as a hermit because of his own tragedies (loss of family and such) but is pulled from his near madness to return to advise and help Arthur. That was one of the reasons I sometimes wonder if Rey is actually Palpatine's heir and there will be "rightful queen of the galaxy" shenanigans to play. I can here Leia and Luke argue now. "I have not given my whole life to the rebellion, the Republic and now the Resistence to now give power to another emperor." Luke looks at her, "How about for peace. War has gone on too long. She can bring the galaxy together and give back the powers that Palpatine took from the people." Probably never happen.

 

Based on what we know it kind of makes sense that Luke would be disillusioned with the Jedi life. His father and nephew are both blood thirsty murderers. Both had a hand in destroying the Jedi.

This isn't a story about a new type of Jedi. It's about rediscovering what it means to be a Jedi.

Luke has lost that loving feeling.


Also... it's been a very common train of thought that Luke needs to change the Jedi. What if he already attempted to change things? This could allow him to be Rey's father. Perhaps, Luke's failure is that he tried to change the Jedi way. Much like his father. Perhaps this story is about him getting back to the real Jedi way.

 

Yeah. He trained a bunch of Jedi, and either they turned on him or they were murdered. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing twice and expect different results. So, perhaps he is trying a different approach. Or he found something in that book or on that planet that changes his views of the Force in general. He also says there's more than just light and dark, something to that effect. That's interesting.

 

It's very possible that this is his mentality, especially after witnessing his nephew fall to the Dark Side and destroy everything he worked so hard to rebuild. We already know that Luke feels responsible for that, so it's not too far-fetched to assume that he genuinely feels like recreating the Jedi Order would only create more problems.

However, it's also a reasonable assumption to make that what he said was taken out-of-context or was edited. There's a long pause in between "It's time for the Jedi..." and "...to end," so it's very possible that something else was said in there, or that those quotes are taken from two completely different scenes. For all we know, that line may not even be in the final version of the film.

 

You know, I have to disagree with your theory. You see, Luke's training was very rushed and the OT showed us clearly that Luke did not go with neither Yoda or Kenobi's way of seeing things. Yoda was willing to have Luke sacrifice his friends and Kenobi wanted him to just take out Vader both of which Luke didn't do in order to follow his own heart. The OT gave us a Luke who was awesome and very smart so I really think that it would be odd for Luke to just suddenly do all the same mistakes that the past order did. How could he? Who guided him to those ideals? Force Ghosts? Just by having Luke build an academy goes to show us that he was doing his own thing and not following the flawed way of the past Jedi. Luke had attachments, possessions, believed in family and had a wider view of things than the Jedi from old. It would be real dumb for Disney to just make him loose all this and go on to make the same dumb mistakes that history showed him how the past Jedi were so flawed and fell.

 

Maybe - but then either 1) It would obvious some deceptive editting on the trailer or 2) Luke isn't being very clear with his language.

We also don't know how much Yoda and Obi-wan taught Luke about hte Jedi order.

 

I'm surprised no-one's mentioned this yet, but it's entirely possible that "It's time for the Jedi...to end" isn't even a line spoken in the film.

It's common practice for movie trailers to cut together speech in this way, and to even cut so as to condense sentences, so I wouldn't be surprised if the "It's time for the Jedi" and "to end" were from the same scene but context has been lost by cutting out other parts of the speech to create such a dramatic line, or perhaps even completely different points in the movie (either case would probably explain the long dramatic pause).

 

He could have, but we don't know if he did or not. We've already seen Luke break with what they want him to do,w ould he now follow them lock-step?

 

I have thought about this too. After seeing all the things that were shown in RO and a few things in TFA that never made it to the film, I wouldn't be surprised if that comment never even makes it to the movie. I have to ask though, doesn't that fall under false advertising? Cause TFA trailer didn't have as much but the RO trailer had ALOT of things that never made it into the movie.