I've been thinking about the movie for a while...

I can’t agree more so many valid points in this

 

If I want to see some realistic depressive drama, I can watch everydays news or 1 of the many depressive movies out there. But Star Wars always stood for a family adventure to give us hope in times without much hope. This is gone forever.

 

LOL, it's like clock work; this train is never late.

 

They forgot one single thing...it was our beloved Mythos, our Space opera,our Skywalker saga, our childhood fantasy, our Luke, with all it its lalaby things and family thing we loved and which endulged us. This they turned it into polithicaly correct and realistic masterpiece that is as perfect as well is Star Wars as is the film Schindler's list.

 

Thanks for your thoughtful review of the film. It's an absolute embarrassment that your post is being greeted with negative ratings by the same old trolls.

Huh?

 

I agree with some of your points and disagree with others but you bring up some arguments that I haven't seen/considered before. I still think it's fascinating though how even 3 months after the release of TLJ fans are still so divided about this movie that you get 6 likes vs 4 disagree. One things for sure, the fan divide won't go away anytime soon...

 

Respect , but that that is main disagreement, cause of backlash.

I and part of the fandom that is hurt with this film didn't wanted we to find that universe is indifferent, and drunk parents treat their children like garbage, we didn't wanted to find out that faliure is destiny of all. including old heroes, Titans.We wanted Lucas galaxy, not ours.

We have our world for this,our world we live in.

We were escaping in Star Wars for something else for 40 years, for touch of glory and perfection, of distinction of good an evil, as well as to see our beloved characters succeeded in their lives by the grace of been-heroes, again something against reality that we see in every days life around us.

Escapeism.

They failed in element of entertainment and enduldgence which Star Wars delivered before, by forgetting its a space opera and people want space opera, mythos, not realistic documentary about the injustice and sarcastic nature of the life and universe, and especially not this realism to be applied to the decades long heroes which once were loved under the rule of Space opera,...Luke, Leia, Han Solo, now to be thrown into final destiny and joy eating indifferent universe .

As I said, technically looking its a "flawles " film, but its not any film, but Star Wars, and in a part to deliver escapeism by the original Star Wars criteria ,its a faliure.

 

The only ratings he has are Like's/Great Post and Disagrees. There is absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone. This is the kind of attitude I commonly see from people that support TLJ and it's quite annoying.

 

It is time for all, including Disney, LSL, critics, and public, and us to accept the reality.

Just as it was hard for many to hear that Rey parents are heartless drunkards, or Luke's life a genuine faliure, it is also time for many to accept that backlash against this film is simply a reality that is hard to be heared, and democratic reality.

Film failed in something, relatively, not absolutely, but have failed in the eyes of some. Not all, but some. And those cant be 2 Sith trolls ,a master and apprentice,but a critical mass within the global audience.

This is observable from Box office results to the all the forums about it on this planet.

Getting decent amount of likes and disagree for position pro, and same for position against TLJ, is a fact and proof of it.

It is time for all to learn to accept things that are most hard to hear.

 

Themes like failure, missed expectations and trust in the wisdom of experience are not incompatible with mythos, space opera and escapism. TLJ is, although imperfect, a great film that delivers in many fronts. A great addition to the franchise IMO. Roll on episode 9!

 

Luke Skywalker ,after 40 years of been a subculture hero phenomenon, was sacrifficed by scenario and died like crushed, poor , lone, failed man who experienced only pain and lost in his life.

Wan't them to hear somethig most difficult to hear?

..there are fans, which, until the end of their lives..will not forget it.

Forgive, naturally,

but never forget.

 

Generally speaking it's not hospitable to give negative feedback for a simple opinion. I'm surprised someone who has been here since 2014 is unaware of that, but you haven't posted much so perhaps you didn't know that.

If someone disagrees let them state why. Bombing someone for starting a thread is just poor manners.

 

I disagree and the last scene had Luke falling down and in pain before he died. Nope, this was not peaceful in any way.

 

Luke escaped into the realm where everyone feel peace and purpose,after death, in the Force.

Words of comfort yes. That is what I believe my beloved grandmother felt to when she passed away while I was holding her hand.

Luke's life however, was ,by human standards, a faliure, even if entire LSL Story group would stand as sandwitch people on the streets carrieing messages:" Luke died with peace and purpose" not everyone would believe them , ....unless their is something else they wona tell us in ep IX.