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Jedha = Starkiller Base

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by The Hud, Oct 25, 2016.

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    Found this online this morning, a pretty good theory that Jedha is in fact Starkiller Base...

    SKB - a planet rich in kyber crystals used for the Death Star
    Jedha - potentially kyber rich which peaked the Empire's interest for their new super weapon

    It also potentially explains the arctic conditions, how the space for the laser was created etc.

    Plus other reasons too, and much better explained than how I have...

    http://dorksideoftheforce.com/2016/10/24/rogue-one-theory-jedha-starkiller-base/

    As far as theories goes, this one is pretty good I think - real or not
     
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    It's an interesting theory, but I'm not so convinced.

    Jedha as shown in the trailers seems pretty desolate and dry, despite the permafrost. Starkiller Base had forests and more snow than frost... unless the Empire's meddling has seriously screwed the ecosystem?!

    My bet is that Jedha will be the planet that the Death Star is first tested on and the Empire will obliterate half/all of it because they know how important it is in Jedi history
     
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    Interesting theory and I do love some of the more creative speculating. It is one of the more enjoyable aspects of SW and the weaving of tidbits of information regarding upcoming films. But much like my own sometimes more crazy attempts of connect the dots I think this one is more like to be in the "not so much" category.

    A little off topic but something of concern to me that seems to be a generally accepted part of the movie. It seems to bring up a potential inconsistency that I have a feeling some would cling on to in order to pick apart the movie but perhaps I am misremembering. Didn't Tarkin tell Leia she would have the honor of choosing the first planet the Death Star would destroy just before it blew up Alderaan? So if Jedha is actually destroyed by the DS first wouldn't that be a bit of a contradiction? Or are we to hinge it upon well Jedha just gets partially destroyed but rendered uninhabitable, so that's a reasonable amount of wiggle room?
     
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    Good point... I'd forgotten that specific line! Perhaps it will just be an initial test which takes out a fair proportion of the place - the 'raised' city we see the Destroyer hovering over for example. As you say, that would leave wiggle room for Alderaan to be the first successful 'planet destroying' test fire.
     
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    It seems that there are more planets that have that resources, doesn't really need to be Jedha.
    Jedha is in the Inner Rim and the Starting point of SKB is in the unknown regions, near Illum. So in order to complete it they would have to move the planet to Ilum,but why
    when they already harvested Ilum for the Death Star Weapon. My guess is they just finished the job with the rest of Ilum.
     
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    It's already pretty much been confirmed in the book Ahsoka what planet becomes SKB. It is not Jedha. But I'm not going to spoil that here.
     
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    I thought for sure we'd be getting Jedha = Jakku theories.

    Both are desert planets.

    Jakku has a big ole blast crater that could've been the result of a Death Star strike.

    And why would Lor San Tekka and his band of Force-worshippers be hanging out on Jakku? Was the planet once important to the Jedi? Could that be why Lor found the map to the first Jedi temple there? And why is Lor's village sitting atop a plateau like the city on Jedha?

    Please tell me this theory already exists, because I'll be disappointed if it doesn't.
     
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    I feel like I read something official about TFA's planetary atlas suggesting that Ilum is not Starkiller Base, but a planet nearby with a similar climate. The key difference between Starkiller Base and Ilum is that the former has plant life while the latter is largely a barren, frigid wasteland.

    The only explanation I can come up with is that the First Order terraformed the planet to make it more hospitable to install a military base on, but even then, The Clone Wars clearly showed that people could breathe just fine without the presence of a lot of trees. Granted, planets are absolutely huge and we don't see a lot of them, so it may be that we just didn't see the forest for the frost, but it's worth keeping in mind that Star Wars is known for single-biome planets.
     
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    I don't remember seeing that theory. It seems much more streamlined and makes a lot of sense.
     
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    Wow I guess I need to do the face palm of the "why didn't I think of that" variety. Simple yet deep and I dare say sounds so sensible it could just be right.
     
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    Yeah I remember that too. Or it said something about the system idk. It could be a moon or another planet there, sometimes planets share a similar geology. The thing is:
     
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    But how would you get around the name? Lots of people would still be around (like Han) who would have known it as Jedha back in the day. Wouldn't it be kind of weird to just start calling it something different?
     
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    And who is to say that Jedha and Ilum are the only planets that were mined? We've already got plenty of hints that Lothal plays a big part in the Death Star's construction in some capacity, and it isn't like they didn't have plans to build a second one. You're gonna need a lot of materials to build something large enough to be mistaken for a small moon, let alone two.
     
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    Ywah sure it still good be a planet in the area, doesn't need to Ilum. But coming from the original post, I don't think SKB needs to be Jedha, there are more planets that could be turned.
     
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    Anyway, I found the article. Here's the relevant quote:
    They may have changed their minds, but it doesn't seem like something that a team as cautious as the Lucasfilm Story Group would do. It seems more akin to what they did in the EU - bend over backwards to retcon something after George Lucas contradicted an existing story element through the Prequel Trilogy.
     
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    Oh, I don't really believe the theory, though there are some interesting coincidences. In fact, I think it's pretty easy to debunk just using info Lucasfilm has already released. I'm just surprised I haven't seen the theory before. Especially after all the Jakooine theories pre-TFA.
     
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    In Life Debt, wasn't Jakku referred to as such in a flashback that supposedly takes place around the time of TPM? So it was known as Jakku at least that far back.
     
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    Would be cool, and I suppose terraforming and/or literally moving the planet around would alter the climate...
     
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    Something else I remembered from that article is that Starkiller Base's origin point is in the Unknown Regions, right next to Ilum (although the exact point where the planet is is not clearly defined).

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    If that planet that will become SKB is in the Unknown Regions, then the planet is almost certainly uninhabited. Since we see a civilization on Jedha, that's not happening.

    I think that what we'll see is Jedha go ker-blooey. Perhaps not in the standard way with what happened to Alderaan, but several test shots gone wrong. I think that that's what the giant "sandstorm" that the ship is seen evading in the second trailer is supposed to be - the result of a large amount of debris being displaced by a blast from a weaponized Kyber Crystal (and then the sand gets everywhere, which I don't like).
     
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    Completely agree.
     
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