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JJ Abrams to write and direct Episode IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Casper11, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Ammianus Marcellinus

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    ^wow.....some of the haters are even worse than I imagined...2018 and we're dealing with Marvel fanboys.

    Comparing Star Wars to Marvel isn't really a smart thing...
     
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    @Use the Falchion - nicely put.

    Essentially, Avengers: Infinity War is a marketing title - the film is really The Thanos Movie. Most of the heroes aren't appearing it for the purposes of an arc - those have already been played out in the preceding films.
    Thor being an exception, getting his motivation moment, his hero's quest and his return.

    Anyway, all this aside - let's get this thread back on topic. If people are debating Infinity War, please can you take it to the MCU thread and keep the rest of the boards free of spoilers for those who are actively avoiding them.

    I thank you!
     
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    By 10 million? That's hardly getting their "ass kicked." Also the MCU has how many movies? Since the purchase, Lucasfilm has had 3 films reach 1 Billion dollars. The MCU has 18 and their last two has just reached that number. So, yeah the MCU is just catching up. Plus, it's not like they're owned by different companies or anything like that. So, why should Lucasfilm have to worry?
     
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    Things we will get with Abrams:

    * dynamic dialogue
    * dynamic editing
    * dynamic photograpgy
    * deep emotional acting performances
    * "magical" narrative
    * mystery (open endings and endless discussion--love it)
     
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    I was right. Good fun for a short period but ultimately something I won't repeat for some time.

    The problem yet again was having so many characters. It just becomes a vacuous mess. The "shocking" ending falls flat because too many characters are snuffed out. And many of the good characters that are likeable (Star Lord, Spiderman, Black Pantha etc) are just disposed of so easily and without any emotional payoff. And at the same time, it is pretty obvious that most of them will return for the already planned sequels - so it just becomes a bit confusing. The film has little to no philosophical depth. It's a bit of fun. But it doesn't stand up with Star Wars which comes across as positively high-brow in comparison. Some good laughs though.

    On a sidenote, myself and @ITG exchanged glances when Thanos' minion (the one that was sucked out of the ship) appeared.... #PlagueisLives...
     
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    #PlagueisConfirmed
     
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    Wall Street Journal - Intrigue and Drama on the Han Solo Set

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/intrigue-and-drama-on-the-han-solo-set-1525961998
     
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    I don't think it's Bad Robot. The reason TFA was a co-production was because Lucasfilm were getting back in the swing of things as they turned themselves into a company with annual releases for the first time ever.

    Still, I won't be surprised in the slightest to hear if some of J. J. Abrams's frequent collaborators pop back in for this one.
     
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    Cheers!
     
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    I own all of the films he is directed loved TFA also think Episode IX Will help make TLJ Better and Soften the backlash
     
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    I'm not sure people who are angry online are really modern Star Wars fans. I define modern Star Wars fans as people who enjoyed the Clone Wars animated series and bits of Rebels. The Last Jedi fits in well with much of the elements introduced in those series. For fans who hated the prequels I'm not sure they every really watched that stuff.

    The reason TFA wasn't very controversial is because it played things safe. It was a simple rehash. For the most part so was Rogue One. Lucas left Lucasfilm with a clear concept of what Star Wars is and will be going forward. Kennedy is getting the blame, but she simply producing the stories that fit into that concept.
     
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    the only thing the OT didn't play safe with was the technology.
    there's nothing new or shattering about the story at all, though people for some reason think there is?
    that's why TFA actually resonates with a lot of old and new fans (and also how it brought back some of us who walked away from the PT).
    almost all adventure movies are rehash, really. just the names and the settings and the precise nature of the reveals change.

    i don't know why we need a label like "modern" Star Wars fan. it's just another divide.
    also, i'm not sure i agree that generally speaking TLJ resonates more with people who like the Clone Wars or Rebels.
    in all seriousness is there a scientific poll somewhere broken down by age groups that shows who likes what?
    because i have a feeling the divisiveness of TLJ has almost nothing to do with your entry point into Star Wars and all the generalizations aren't that helpful.

    also, i completely agree that Kennedy is following George Lucas' original concept (hence returning to so much McQuarrie art, for example).
    Johnson tried to include some more PT-like elements in TLJ and i feel like that actually may have backfired.
     
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    There's plenty of lore changing stuff in TLJ that's never been a Star Wars film before. Yoda burning down the tree. Kylo and Rey communicating through the force from super long distances. Luke projecting himself across the galaxy.
    It's a theory about Star Wars and what it means to people. There are fans out there who don't like TLJ who know zero about the Clone Wars/Rebels lore. TLJ fits in nicely with a lot of the stuff shown in canon. At the same time, not as many people have watched that stuff.

    I just rewatched The Last Jedi again yesterday after a couple of week break. The film is amazing and I'm all for Lucasfilm building on the new and moving forward.
     
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    Wasn't it done before in TESB? You know, when Luke communicates with Vader and Leia after the film's climactic lightsaber duel?
     
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    That was when they were in close proximity. It wasn't across the galaxy and the force projection is entirely new. We also saw Snoke spin Hux around from across the galaxy.
     
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    i guess i don't really see this stuff as new. maybe heightened or an extension of stuff we've already seen? but i don't feel like it's new or even changing. but the whole argument about Force abilities is maybe beyond my interest, so i'm fine conceding the field to people who want to die on that particular hill. i didn't see anything in TLJ that made me think: what's that? that's never happened, that's not supposed to happen, that needs to be explained.

    and i don't see TLJ building on the new, i see it building on the all. i think for those of us for whom it resonates, that's partly why?
    i don't begrudge anyone who likes Clone Wars or the PT or think that the Mortis arc explains everything or codifies the "rules" in some way.
    whatever Mortis codified Bendu uncodified in my estimation. or at least established a path of greater fluidity.

    personally, none of this fazes me.
    there's plenty of Star Wars for everyone! : D
     
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    It's more like developing the lore rather than changing it.
     
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    There argument was "nothing new" in TLJ. There's new stuff in the film and developing lore fits solidly into that camp.
     
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    JJ Willl Most Likely bring back Greg Grunberg as Snap Wexley and His cinematographer Dan Mindel , Kaplan is already attached Im hoping he brings back Jessica Henwick as Jess Pava I know were going to see a New young Black unknown Female and Possibly a 45-50 Veteran Actress as well
     
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