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JJ Abrams to write and direct Episode IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Casper11, Sep 12, 2017.

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    @MagnarTheGreat thanks again for finding and posting all these little gems.
     
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    Hahaha...I hope.

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    New York Times - The Battle for ‘Star Wars’
    A creative shake-up, last-minute rewrites and a director not known for great endings: J.J. Abrams and company get real about the making of “The Rise of Skywalker.”

     
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    Q: Colin Trevorrow was originally set up to do this before J.J. returned to the fold along with his co-writer Chris Terrio. How did things change between the two stories?

    Daisy Ridley: There were lots of changes, but the main story stayed the same. As J.J. said, ‘Sometimes things can get a bit overly complicated.’ So I think they stripped it back to make it clearer. Someone was talking about how Empire Strikes Back is a clear story. They have to do this one thing, then another thing and another thing and that’s sort of it. So I think this was mainly getting it back to that idea of, what do we need to achieve and what do we need to go through.

    https://torontosun.com/entertainmen...e-of-skywalker-theres-real-sadness-at-the-end
     
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    Good interview. So natural. Love how JJ talks. Without a doubt knows perfectly SW world and understands all represents. I love the fact he is always critic with himself (like he says, he always "simpathize more with the people who have negative things to say", that's how we learn from our mistakes), and that's why he was the perfect choice for TFA and he is the perfect choice for TROS. Would have been great to see all saga from his point of view.

    You know, I would love to see another SW movie from JJ (spin-off with Rey? He loves Daisy acting and her evolution). January can't come faster to know the new director for new movies. Hope it's him.
     
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    New York Daily News - How J.J. Abrams and Billy Dee Williams tied up the epic, nine-movie Skywalker Saga with ‘Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker’

    J. J. Abrams:
    “I was brought on to work on The Force Awakens and then I was brought on to work on Episode 9, which became Rise of Skywalker. The story that I was working on for The Force Awakens with Larry Kasdan was something that we projected forward what the ending would maybe be, would possibly be, likely would be. But we were very busy working on Episode 7, and Episode 9 was two movies quite a way away. So the focus was on 7. While we worked on 7, Kathy hired Rian Johnson to work on 8, because there was no way I would be conscious to work on 8 and then 9, and she had that responsibility.” “When we were done with 7, I was very happy to be in the audience again, and thought that what Rian did had amazing surprises and shocks and subverting expectations at every turn, and was fun for me as an audience member." “On 9, we got to continue conversations that we’d had back on 7, which was really fun. And instead of it being two movies away in the future, it was ‘Oh my God, it’s happening right now and we have to end this in the best, most satisfying emotional way possible.’” “Rian did things I never would have thought to do that ended up helping where 9 went in a way that was even more satisfying than I expected it would be. And ultimately the challenge, which was fairly terrifying at the beginning – how do you end not just a trilogy but three trilogies? – was always more gratifying than it was frightening. It ended up having more potential and opportunity than it did terror.” “I always look at what I have done and see things that I wish I had done better or differently. I wish that Chewie hadn’t walked past Leia in the third act of The Force Awakens after Han died. There are things all over the place I always know I could have done better, but that’s part of learning, I guess.” (December 15, 2019)
     
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    ...wish he didn't, TBH.
     
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    “When we were done with 7, I was very happy to be in the audience again, and thought that what Rian did had amazing surprises and shocks and subverting expectations at every turn, and was fun for me as an audience member."

    “Rian did things I never would have thought to do that ended up helping where 9 went in a way that was even more satisfying than I expected it would be."

    I wish I could put these quotes in big flashing letters all over the Internet because they're an unambiguous first-hand rebuttal and rejection of the idea that JJ undid or ignored or was unhappy with or negatively caught off guard by Rian's decisions.
     
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    JJ made great use of the 'force timing' that Rian introduced in TLJ.

    Rian in his defence also had the burden not giving full answers to big questions knowing those payoffs had to come in the finale...
     
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    J. J. Abrams: “[My approach to storytelling and the way to create additions to the Star Wars franchise is to] do the best you can with everything you have.” “The truth is that these are things that are meant to entertain people, to make them feel something and hopefully make them feel good.” [My involvement with the new Star Wars trilogy has been a] blessing.” “Obviously, it doesn’t always work. It’s hard when it doesn’t, and when it doesn’t, you have to understand it, you have to acknowledge it, you have to examine it.” (January 30, 2020)

    J. J. Abrams: “[Reaction to Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker was] good, bad, some people hated it, some people loved it. It was all over the place. To those who didn’t like it, I totally get it, respect it. To those who loved it, I’m grateful and dubious of your taste…kidding! I’m nothing but grateful. Obviously, a lot of people worked a lot of hours to do something that would make people feel good and that they’d love and anytime someone doesn’t like it you think ‘oh, yeah I could’ve done that better, I should’ve done that.’ You try to like take it in but for the most part I’m incredibly grateful to everyone who worked so hard to do it and for the people who saw it and loved it I’m grateful to them too.” “I’m incredibly proud of the entire crew and cast and I think they all deserve to be recognized for extraordinary work.” “Maybe [that criticism is inevitable], I don’t know. It’s easy to say that but I don’t know if that’s true.” (February 7, 2020)
     
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    Podcast interview with the editors of SW:TFA and SW:TROS and frequent J. J. Abrams collaborators (Part 2 starting at 31:12) (archive):

    Maryann Brandon, co-editor of Star Wars: The Force Awakens and Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: "I would say a lot of things about J. J. [Abrams] and all of them great but he is...and one of the great things about him is...he thinks big, so everything's always big and he...if you're going to say to him [like Disney CEO Bob Iger did], 'This is a four billion [dollar] pressure,' he's gonna bring his eight billion dollar game. So when that all sort of happened I knew [Star Wars Episode VII] was gonna be a big, big film and it was gonna be full of ideas and creative ideas that were gonna be really fun to sink my teeth into."

    Mary Jo Markey, co-editor of Star Wars: The Force Awakens: "We read that [Michael Arndt version of Star Wars Episode VII]. We read a long outline."

    Maryann Brandon: "We read the outline [of the Michael Arndt version of Star Wars Episode VII]. No [the three movies weren't outlined at that point], just that one."

    Mary Jo Markey: "I don't remember [Michael Arndt's version of Star Wars Episode VII] bearing a lot of resemblence [to the final version] to be honest." "Yeah [it was quite different]."

    Maryann Brandon: "I think [Michael Arndt's version of Star Wars Episode VII] was quite different and I think [Arndt and Abrams/Kasdan] just saw it completely differently and also I don't know that their work styles were very different. I can't really speak to it 'cause I wasn't around those days. We weren't there. [We were both] doing something else [at the time]."

    Mary Jo Markey: "It was something about like...one of them, I don't know even remember - it was work style - it's like one of them needed to flesh out everything before moving story and the other one did it."

    Mary Ann Brandon: "I think J. J. [Abrams] is definitely...he does seem to enjoy a lot of input and ideas and you can splash'em up there on a wall and then he takes them and kind of...we all move them around and I think Michael [Arndt]'s a much more plodding, 'This leads to this and this, to this, this,' and if you take the 'A' out, 'D' is gonna fall apart. And so that is a real style clash. And when J. J. started working with Lawrence Kasdan, I think Larry just fed him ideas, let J. J. have ideas or listen to J. J.'s ideas and then he kind of fed them and enhanced them and guided them more. So I think that was a more...he was also really excited to work with Larry Kasdan. I think that relationship was solid." "That's an interesting question [about what their ideas were for where the story would go in VIII and IX and if they were deviated from]. They were so concentrating on getting one up and rebooting the series. When I first started on the film, I didn't realize that it was gonna go then to another director. I didn't even think about it. In hindsight, I wish J. J. had done them all and I wish they spread them out like into a nine year period or a ten year period and given it [more time] sort of like Lord of the Rings."

    Mary Jo Markey: "I do remember them...hearing them talking about certain elements that they thought should be...things that would follow through the three [new Star Wars movies], but..." "Oh yeah [they tried to talk me into coming back to do Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]. I just decided not to do the film for...I just wanted to do something else to be honest. I sort of told my agent, 'No more'. No more spaceships, no more monsters."

    Maryann Brandon: "[Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker] was a big film. It had to encompass a lot. It had to...wherever VIII led, IX had to answer and [it had to wrap it all up including the three trilogies]. So it was a big...it was a lot. And the film's chock-full. I love the film...I think it's just got so much in it and so much going for it...inevitably it wasn't going to please everyone." "Yes, it evolved in post-production, but there were a lot of basic ideas that were there to begin with and where we were going to take the main character and J. J. and Chris Terrio, the writer, very much wanted Rey and Finn and Poe to be together in this one and have it be an adventure the way Luke and Leia and Han did and they're good together, they're emotionally connected...so there was figuring and rejiggering but there was a basic...it goes along with the script."

    And then they talk about Palpatine being back, Tatooine, the final cut being Abrams's director's cut, and so on.

    Podcast interview with the editors of SW:TFA and SW:TROS (Part 3):

    Maryann Brandon: "I liked parts of The Last Jedi, yeah." (laughs at Markey's silence instead of reply to the same question) "The Last Jedi – I will say this: It was just a different take on the Star Wars Saga. To Rian [Johnson]’s credit…he stuck to what he wanted to do and he wanted to deconstruct the film and open it up to a different…to go a different direction and that is the film he made and I know it’s controversial but isn’t that kind of good in a way? (laughs)” “[Star Wars: The Last Jedi did] bring new elements [like you just said]…and you kind of…[it was exciting like you just claimed] yeah. So…that’s why I say I feel very much like in hindsight that the trilogy, the last part of the trilogy, needed one vision.” “Right [Rian Johnson kind of did the undoing first in Star Wars: The Last Jedi before Abrams in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker like you just said], it’s like so it went like that.” “Well the third film went with the first film!” “I agree [that Star Wars: The Last Jedi] was really polarizing and I think it was hard to know for the writer and for J. J. [Abrams] what to do with [the story going forward]. Yeah [how do you get the fans back?] or how do you…it’s like if somebody [else] wrote the middle of your novel. You’re like, ‘Okay, now I got to…how do I get the end of the novel?’”

    Mary Jo Markey: "[Did I like The Last Jedi?] ... (silence) (crosstalk and laughter between host and Brandon) Well we're not lying." “I couldn’t agree more [with Maryann Brandon’s sentiment]. It’s very strange to have the second film so consciously undo the storytelling of the first film. I’m sorry, that’s what it felt like.” “I don’t even really feel that [the accusations are] true about the third film [undoing Star Wars: The Last Jedi], I just…I don’t know, I feel it took where the second film ended and just tried to tell a story. I didn’t feel like it was consciously…I’m trying to…I don’t know, it just didn’t feel that way to me.”
     
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    I was incredibly critical of J.J. Abrams' approach to Star Wars for The Force Awakens because I had been given the impression - based on on-camera comments about the franchise that he had previously made - that he lacked an understanding of the deeper thematic and stylistic elements of the 6 previous films, but he proved with The Rise of Skywalker - in both what he put onscreen and the way he conducted himself during the writing and filming process as documented in the The Skywalker Legacy documentary - that I had very unfairly passed judgment on him and so I can now say with full sincerity that the franchise was made better by his involvement as both a director, writer, and producer.
     
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    It's kind of sad that he never wrote it (and barely directed it).
     
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