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JJ Abrams to write and direct Episode IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Casper11, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. General_Tarkin

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    My condolences... Although considering your taste in movies, and the fact that you still can't use the quote system properly, I am not surprised at all. Btw, I'm not really sure where did you get the originality in regards of Terrio or BvS. BvS's script was a 100% mishmash (and butchering) of already existing DC source materials.

    I think with ep III Lucas proved that he can deliver. I have many problems with that movie, but all of them are related to the other two episodes (mostly the lack of proper build up to ep III), but all things considered imo Lucas delievered a satisfying end to the PT. And yes, there is depth in that movie, more so than any JJ movie I've seen so far.
    Between Mr. Reboot and Geroge Lucas I'd certainly chose Lucas for the finishing piece of the ST.
     
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    There's very little depth in the PT that wasn't 100% derived from the standing of the OT.
    The dialogue is dry and awful. The pacing is terrible. There's about 0 wit in those movies.
    If you didn't know who Darth Vader was before them, the Anakin turn is absurd and one of the worst villain reveals ever.

    There's more depth in 1 movie of Kylo Ren than the entire PT trilogy.
     
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    And J.J. praises Rian's work(EP VIII scenario),which means he will follow his footsteps in EP IX without doctrinal changes.
     
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    Yep! It all comes full circle in the end.
     
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    While I know what I said earlier about JJ and RotJJ.. I think atp we can kiss any bearing the pulp has in the movies goodbye. This is another 2 month script write and it would be impossible to catch up on those books even if he wanted to.. which he doesn't. That could be good or bad depending on your PoV.. I'll admit feeling a little mixed at that.
    (Ninja'd by Lucasfilm 30 minutes after I wrote it.)
    I do wonder what collectively these series of events that have unfolded over the summer is going to mean for Star Wars films going forward. Everything is fine through Nine.. but unless the plan is a hiatus of some sort, they're going to need directors KK can work with other than Rian and JJ. You also wonder if directors are going to take a chance with LFL knowing how it ended for 5 of the 7 directors hired. It's getting to be like the NFL: The money, the potential fame.. but are the concussions to your career really worth it?
     
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    Episode IX moves to December. Thank the Maker!
     
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    (green)Both as per the nu-balance (red)

    ;)
     
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    That might be true for ep I and II, but not for ep III, imo. Sure, Kylo Ren's character was deep and all, but that's probably it for TFA.
    JJ's movies are all the same. Painfully mediocre action flicks with false sentimentalism instead of real drama or depth.
    And that is what ep IX is going to be under his watch, imo...

    But even if we dismiss the above mentioned and proclaim JJ the greatest director ever, the fact that they'll have to rush the script again (just like with TFA after Arndt left) to keep the schedule (even if LFL postpones it ot Dec, which is very likely at this point) pretty much guarantees another mediocre letdown.
     
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    I dont know exactly how scenario writing goes,but Trevorrow team was well paid to think of cenario....could J.J. and his men use best parts of this work and modiffy it,which would shorten the proccess?
     
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    J.J. and december release = God exists.
     
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    The did postpone it.
    Nothing about TFA was a let down.
    A let down is the PT.

    I seriously don't get how Lucas is still defended as a director.
    All the major problems with the PT stem from Lucas.
     
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    Episode III was equally horrible for many reasons. On the level of the saga it really is the only piece that can be missed, and should be missed
     
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    This means that we can say "Goodbye!" to whatever Colin Trevorrow has written for IX and that there will be a completely new script for the film.
     
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    IX is in great hands!
     
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    Making cinematic history might have something to do with it.


    Fans.


    But I have no interest in any off-topic Prequel debates here, so back on topic:

    Personally, I'd much prefer George Lucas any day over J.J., especially where it comes to wrapping up the Skywalker saga.
     
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    It was horrible because of the lack of proper build up in the previous episodes. But it did show potential imo.
    It seems they indeed postponed it, although it was a no brainer atp. Still, not enough time. Ironically it was Lawrence Kasdan who said it right: Movies like Star Wars or Jaws don't grow on tree. Rushing a story like this in a few months can only lead into faliure. Michael Arndt worked on TFA's script for eight (!) months, but it wasn't enough and he left. Becuase he understood that a story like Star Wars is incredibly hard to create and you can't rush it. And Arndt is an incomparably better writer than JJ.
    Now, they're doing the exact same thing... Do you know what Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

    I liked TFA, don't get me wrong, I've seen it 5 times in cinema. But it was a letdown imo. I think there was much more potential in the story than the vague film we got. But it was fine for the beginning of a trilogy.
    Because he finished his story well. I'm talking about the final episode here only.
     
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    Michael Arndt is known for how slowly he writes his scripts.
     
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    Yeah, this has gotten fairly ridiculous. Clearly, something about the selection process has to change. I still think Star Wars has enough cachet that most directors will jump for a chance to try. But if they sack another director? I think at that point Kathleen's job might be in jeopardy.
     
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    Nero made history, but that didn't make him a loved emperor. :)
     
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    Nero apparently wasn't that bad and that story of him setting Rome on fire is most likely false. Caligula, on the other hand...
     
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